Remington fires when safety released

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After reading all the links regarding this issues it happened to me the other day. I was using my Model 7 and it fired when I released the safty. I must have done it hundreds of times before and it never happened.

Upon the advise of Shawn from Reliable Guns I increase the sear engagement as well as the trigger pull.

Anyone else have similar experience or remedy? Tom
 
Was the trigger ever adjusted?
There could be more to it than just increasing the engagement of the tigger connector and the sear.
Best to have someone really familiar with Remington triggers do the setup.
 
Many times it is either a dirty assembly or one that is adjusted incorrectly or both. Use some naphtha (lighter fluid) to clean and lube the trigger assembly then check adjustments. Test thoroughly.
 
Took the gun to Shane from Reliable. He found there was a kink in the trigger spring which was enough that time to cause the trigger not to engage the sear entirely and thus causing the firing upon release of the safety.

Since this was a Remington defect the whole repair was paid for by Remington. Tom
 
The origin of the 700 and thus the 7 can be traced back to the P14 and M15 made by remington for WW1. Guess what happens when you take the safety off of a P14? Bang! Its an old old problem. There was actually a TV program addressing this safety issue on the other day. "Remington under fire" I think it was called.
 
ciphery said:
The origin of the 700 and thus the 7 can be traced back to the P14 and M15 made by remington for WW1. Guess what happens when you take the safety off of a P14? Bang! Its an old old problem. There was actually a TV program addressing this safety issue on the other day. "Remington under fire" I think it was called.
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A lot of rifles will fire if you hold the trigger back and release the safety. The P-14 trigger and safety mechanism have nothing to do with the M700 design.
 
Just noticed my old Rem 40x does the same thing. I rarely use the safety as it is a varmint gun that I shoot from a bench or prone and not a walker. I wonder how long it's been doing that? Time to tweak the trigger. Today coincidentally I had to adjust the trigger on my Savage 110 because when the bolt was closed aggressively the trigger would break. Not a great situation when hunting and working the bolt for a follow up shot. She works well now though. I chalk all this up to routine maintenance as parts wear over time.
 
It happens to all of them, either though neglect, an improperly adjusted assembly or an assembly that was adjusted correctly but has now worn to the point of malfunctioning. Just follow proper safe gun handling then get it repaired.
 
What ever they call it There have been a few Remingtons with the problem. 700, 600, 660, M14, 30, 720,721,722....don't know of any other models to have done it but there are a few other guns that wear in a bad and unsafe manner. A buddy of mine has an old cooey 22 that will empty the whole mag after it has fired the first shot. Know another guy with an old single shot shotgun where the gun will fire from the safe position if you pull the trigger twice. The problem with these is purely wear. The Rem 600's problem was that if you depressed the trigger while in the safe mode when you took the safety off it would automatically fire even if your finger was no where near the trigger that's a design flaw not wear.
Now some of the other Rem models had triggers that had adjustable triggers and if improperly adjusted could have serious safety issues. I blame the monkey with the screwdriver not necessarily the manufacturer however.
 
P14, M17, 30, and 720 have a different safety/trigger design. Any glitches from them will be purely wear. The others are easily misadjusted to add to the wear factor, so something to chk when buying used. Usually an easy fix, so I don't let it stop me from buying a Remington that falls into that category. - dan
 
IMHO...

Take it to a gunsmith and have him replace the trigger with a Timney or Shilen.

I had this happen to me some years back, rifle discharged and scared the hell outta me. And this has happened to far too many, with severe consequences in some instances. On mine it was a repeatable failure. Throw the bolt home, set the safety, press the trigger, and then release the safety.

I couldn't care less about the price of a decent trigger when it comes to reliability and safety.

FWIW.
 
Safe firearms handling trumps trigger/safety issues every time.
Many firearms have suffered the malady of Discharges when it was not expected.
If the Firearm is being handled properly, with safety in mind, the only consequence is a bit of alarm to the handler.
This trigger issue has been blown way out of proportion, IMHO.
Eagleye.
 
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