300 win mag or 7mm rem mag

I'd like to attend this $100 bill long range shoot with an inaccurate Ruger, and it's a too-powerful-to-be-accurate-.375 H&H on top of being a Ruger. I'd shoot lowish BC hunting bullets. You hit the other guy's bill, you own it I presume?

I'm serious, I'd really like to go against a 0.5 and better MOA every group every bullet Tikka in such a competition and post a thread here with the results. Money where your mouth is shooting, and will be neat to see if the Tikka can truly shame a lowly completely stock Ruger in an ancient chambering. Can't think of a better head to head in the hunting and sporting arms world. 500 yards say, alternating shots between shooters at the other guy's bill(s)? I won't shoot against Dogleg and his .338 :D (well, maybe one bill) but I'd be very pleased to have a crack at a Tikka.

Even an M695? ;)
 
Hunting/reloading/firearms is where my funds usually wind up no matter how much I try to control myself!

I would never worry about the powder cost, that is such a small variable of the equation.However I have a 50 BMG round sitting in front of me right now, that one does look like it could break the bank.:eek:

So where can one stretch out the legs of a .338 in Sask?


When I add up the powder costs for the 7-08, 7 Rem and .300 Win I find that the Rem mag costs .05 more per cartridge, and the .300 costs 10-12 cents more per shot. I've been broke before, but never so broke that a nickel or a dime per shot was going to be a deal breaker.
 
I use my 7mm for everything. Coyotes, deer, elk, moose, bear.

I've shot game from 10 feet out to over 400 yards with it.

I have a ruger m77 stainless with a synthetic stock, shot it for years and its probably the only gun I own that I would trust my life on without a doubt.
 
Ardents got it right....obviously I wouldnt put a Kimber Montana against a T3 Varmint at any range...but grab your Plastikka Lite and we'll go head to head ;) .


Plastikka's are no more or less accurate than the rest...and quite a bit chincier, cept for those kimbers and there terrible accuracy issues!
 
I have owned and hunted with both and personally did better with the 7mm Rem Mag. I used to get tapped by the scope on the 300 but never with the 7mm. Basically could not shoot the 300 as good because of that fear of getting hit I guess so my vote is the 7mm. The 300 is definitely more potent but for what we hunt mostly here in Canada I don't think the gain over the 7mm is very much at all.
 
I really can't shoot that well, sorry for posting garbage.

You're an honest man if the tone of this is how I take it. Odds are I'd miss too- I simply sincerely doubt I'd miss any worse than the latest Tikka armed hunter. My plan would be to miss better, and have a lot of fun and hopefully net a bill if somebody ever takes me on. :) If I hit the 'hundred first shot I'm acting like I meant to, and will claim my Ruger .375 hits $100 bills all day long at 500 yards, even loaded with pistol powder, cast, or even 9.3 bullets. :redface:

Thing is, I believe the Tikka guys 100 yard claims- I just think they're stretched the slightest touch on how consistent that is. But it seems more Tikka owners than any other brand, though challenged by Savage, sit at benches and shoot short range trying to make holes touch, then proudly go to the internet with it as proof of Tikka's superior design. They often automatically assume a Winchester and especially Ruger couldn't touch those groups, but they'd be wrong. Do I believe a T3 is more intrinsically accurate than my favoured Rugers? Yes, but not always- my most accurate factory rifle, ever, in dozens of hunting rifles is a bone stock Ruger Model 77, it shoots like gravity is hauling the bullets to the same point of impact. I also am not misled into the impression that a rifle that shoots 7/8" at 200 yards kills big game better than one that shoots 1 1/2"- or even 4" for that matter. Plastic and cheap parts is a drawback, a pencil's width difference in groups is not, the shooter will always be more important than the rifle by a factor so huge it makes any Tikka accuracy edges insignificant.

If you don't own or support Tikka, my apologies, I've lost track of who's who and who's fighting for what and it's too late in the evening to go look. Perhaps that means I'm done in this thread! :) Challenge stands, would love to go against a Tikka, 500 yards...
 
You're an honest man if the tone of this is how I take it. Odds are I'd miss too- I simply sincerely doubt I'd miss any worse than the latest Tikka armed hunter. My plan would be to miss better, and have a lot of fun and hopefully net a bill if somebody ever takes me on. :) If I hit the 'hundred first shot I'm acting like I meant to, and will claim my Ruger .375 hits $100 bills all day long at 500 yards, even loaded with pistol powder, cast, or even 9.3 bullets. :redface:

Thing is, I believe the Tikka guys 100 yard claims- I just think they're stretched the slightest touch on how consistent that is. But it seems more Tikka owners than any other brand, though challenged by Savage, sit at benches and shoot short range trying to make holes touch, then proudly go to the internet with it as proof of Tikka's superior design. They often automatically assume a Winchester and especially Ruger couldn't touch those groups, but they'd be wrong. Do I believe a T3 is more intrinsically accurate than my favoured Rugers? Yes, but not always- my most accurate factory rifle, ever, in dozens of hunting rifles is a bone stock Ruger Model 77, it shoots like gravity is hauling the bullets to the same point of impact. I also am not misled into the impression that a rifle that shoots 7/8" at 200 yards kills big game better than one that shoots 1 1/2"- or even 4" for that matter. Plastic and cheap parts is a drawback, a pencil's width difference in groups is not, the shooter will always be more important than the rifle by a factor so huge it makes any Tikka accuracy edges insignificant.

If you don't own or support Tikka, my apologies, I've lost track of who's who and who's fighting for what and it's too late in the evening to go look. Perhaps that means I'm done in this thread! :) Challenge stands, would love to go against a Tikka, 500 yards...

That doesn't make a lick of sense. Tikkas are CONSISTANTLY sub .75 MOANat 100 yards all day, every day...ya right. Most people's idea of consistent sub MOA seems to be if the gun shoots one sub MOA group and 4, 1.25" it's now q sub moa shooter.

Also rugers don't shoot. And I definitely do not have a UL MKII 30-06 here at deer camp that shoots 0.6-1.25" all day long with 165 NABs...nope doesnt happen.
 
I'll just chime in and say that my most accurate rifle, out-of-the-box, is my Savage 10BA, period. A close second is my Sako Bavarian Carbine -- with a little 20 inch barrel !! I think the Savage is just a good precision rifle, and the Sako makes it easy to shoot well, as its so well balanced. In the end, there are a multitude of rifles that will shoot well enough, just take your pick.
 
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