Asked for PAL at Toronto Airport

[mmattockx]

Kinda difficult to take the gun-control advice from a man who's own country has such a terrible record for gun violence.

I see you're new here, so I am not going to flame you. I suggest you do some research and educate yourself as to the quality of Dr. Lott's work, the truth about violence in the US and Canada and exactly what our decades of gun control legislation have accomplished.

You will find Dr. Lott is the world's leading researcher in this area, that the US actually has a lower violent crime rate than Canada, that 3% of the counties in the US have over 50% of the murders and that our gun control legislation has done SFA towards reducing crime and/or increasing public safety.


Mark

 

[emerson]

I fly westjet when the option is available.

 

[mrgoat]

FLHTCUI

You obvoiusly work for Air Canada and thats nice. And yes I do fly at times with your airline as I have no other choice. But when I do have a choice I do not and will not.

I have travelled all over the world during my years and I consider myself very qualified to say without reservation that the folks at Air canada are a piece of work.
If it was not for heavy federal bailouts on many occasions over the years Air Canada would have been out of existance along time ago.

I was only passing on an amusing story that happened to me. So please go to work tomorrow and do the best you can to keep Air Canada thriving and maybe with nice diligent folks like yourself working for them AC will turn around there present reputation.

 

[jjohnwm]

I vividly recall checking in at Pearson in Toronto for an overseas hunt. The security woman wanted to see my firearm, having recovered from her shock at learning I was travelling with a gun (to hunt in Africa!). I opened the case and stood back. She leaned forward and eyeballed the gun, a Blaser R93 completely taken down...barrel, receiver, magazine, scope mount and bolt carrier all snuggled into separate compartments cut into the foam. She then peered at me and demanded "Is it loaded?" I replied "Lady, it isn't even assembled...how could it be loaded?" She retorted "Please answer my question, sir."

I still don't know how I ever caught that flight.

 

[FLHTCUI]

FLHTCUI

You obvoiusly work for Air Canada and thats nice. And yes I do fly at times with your airline as I have no other choice. But when I do have a choice I do not and will not.

I have travelled all over the world during my years and I consider myself very qualified to say without reservation that the folks at Air canada are a piece of work.
If it was not for heavy federal bailouts on many occasions over the years Air Canada would have been out of existance along time ago.

I was only passing on an amusing story that happened to me. So please go to work tomorrow and do the best you can to keep Air Canada thriving and maybe with nice diligent folks like yourself working for them AC will turn around there present reputation.

mrgoat, I do not work for the airline as the 20,000 gross tonnage ship I sail does not get above sea level.
But, I see I got your goat.
Thank you for the best wishes though and I bid adieu the same to you.
Rob

 

[Wendell]

When it comes to inspections...

A triggerlock is a good thing, but a triggerlock combined with a chamber flag is a great thing.

 

[O'Kelly's Boys]

Probably six or seven years ago I was told to demonstrate that a Swiss Arms PE90 (might have been my RobArm M96, but think it was the PE90) was unloaded to Air Canada staff that didn't know how to check. They asked me to do it at the check in counter, in the airport, in front of everybody. I didn't want further delays and replied something along the lines of "As long as this doesn't get me shot.". I picked up the gun, cleared it, some eyes bulged, and I think they realized that wasn't the best way to do it, and I was on my way AOK. Still an odd memory holding a gun that looks like that in a departures terminal.

On my way from TBay to Toronto for one of Hungry's M14 love fests a couple of years back. At the TBay Airport counter I was asked for my PAL no problem which I produced... and to prove the M14 was unloaded. I asked the agent if she was trained to determine the rifle was unloaded. She replied she was not, but that her husband had an FAC and she knew enough about guns. I turned around and looked at the folks in the lineup and back to her and told her I just signed the declaration that said it was unloaded and locked and that I wanted a PO present before waving it around in the AP. She hummed and hawed and told me to move along. I suppose with hind sight I too could have had a little fun and cleared the action in front of everyone as well Air Canada.

On the return trip at Toronto AP the agent wanted the declaration form and asked me for my cert and copied down the Ser # into the computer. He wasn't an ass or anything, didn't want to see the case open or anything along that line, just insisted he needed the ser #. After a bit of a discussion about why he needed the cert I boarded and went home. Got on the phone the next day and after a couple of emails was told the note had been expunged, sorry for the misunderstanding. Westjet.

I mean why have a friggin declaration form if they want the passanger to pull the gun out and prove it unloaded and locked. And for what possible resason do they need the ser#? Air Port agents need some friggin training.

O'Kelly's Boys

 

[Fassteel]

Probably six or seven years ago I was told to demonstrate that a Swiss Arms PE90 (might have been my RobArm M96, but think it was the PE90) was unloaded to Air Canada staff that didn't know how to check. They asked me to do it at the check in counter, in the airport, in front of everybody. I didn't want further delays and replied something along the lines of "As long as this doesn't get me shot.". I picked up the gun, cleared it, some eyes bulged, and I think they realized that wasn't the best way to do it, and I was on my way AOK. Still an odd memory holding a gun that looks like that in a departures terminal.

Well with them good looking boyish looks of yours 6 or 7 years ago you probably looked like you were 12. FS

 

[Rocket Surgery]

Don't recall being asked for my PAL and I've flown dozens of times between BC and Alberta with firearms. The strangest situation I had was last year when flying out of Edmonton. The lady at oversized baggaged asked me if my rifle had been fired recently?
I said no, hadnt seen anything big enough.
She said she has to do random tests to see if guns have been fired and tells me to open my hardcase.
She has a swab with some clear liquid she puts on it and is about to rub on the barrel.
I said that better not damage the bluing.
She said no it wont. It will show if has been fired.
I said so what if it had? I was hunting after all.
She said I dont know why, only that I have to check.
She said "whew, it hasnt been fired". Good thing 'cause I dont know what I was to do if it had been. You are free to go.
I said, that's great. I feel much safer now!!
Cheers
Geoff

Yeah flying between Victoria and Calgary is different because all the stuardists at the gates have husbands with guns. I make the flight all the time simply because I can buy my #### in Calgary cheaper.

One time I had 500 hornady 150g sp .308 bullets in my carry on bag and the dude was like: "I'll walk you to the front so you can check these, and I'll make sure you don't miss your flight"