New Glock 17 - clean or don't clean before shooting?
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Avalonthas
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Toronto ON
Considerabling a Glock will shoot after being soaked, thrown in mud, and rolled in dirt, some factory oil won't hurt it, so get out there and run her.
However as with any firearm, check the barrel for obstruction prior
Safety first
However as with any firearm, check the barrel for obstruction prior
Safety first
- Location
- big sky country
I've cleaned my Glock 17 anout 3 times. I've owned it for 5 years and have about 6000 rounds down the tube.
It's had 2 stoppages. Both were within 2 minutes. My father-in-law was shooting it and was limp wristing it (I think).
It's never jammed on me.
It's had 2 stoppages. Both were within 2 minutes. My father-in-law was shooting it and was limp wristing it (I think).
It's never jammed on me.
Ok, but the criminal code states:
“Weapon” means any thing used, designed to be used or intended for use
(a) in causing death or injury to any person, or
(b) for the purpose of threatening or intimidating any person
and, without restricting the generality of the foregoing, includes a firearm.
Therefore, if the owner consider's his firearm a weapon, in the eye of the law he is not permitted to own it.
We are licensed to own firearms, not weapons (see Firearms Act).
- Location
- big sky country
Could you get any more diluted with your argument?
For the sake of argument, I consider my guns weapons. Now what? Are you going to take them away? Will the police?
No.
Avalonthas
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Toronto ON
Could you get any more diluted with your argument?
For the sake of argument, I consider my guns weapons. Now what? Are you going to take them away? Will the police?
No.
You haven't met a Toronto Police officer yet
Military personnel are issued weapons. We own firearms....for sport. The difference is the intended purpose. The general public in Canada cannot possess "weapons". Straight as a dogs back leg right!?
Fail your own quote proves you wrong.
There is no provision in the CC or the Firearms act for a firearm to be anything but a weapon. Your PAL, reg cert and ATTs are merely government issued authorization to not be charged for breaking the law.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-1.html
That is page one of the Criminal Code.
Shawn
If the intended use is to "threaten,intimidate" ect. it is then deemed a weapon. A firearm can fall into this category (obviously).....so can a baseball bat. It is the intended use of the object. I am NOT licenced to own weapons, I am licenced to own firearms. If I were to threaten anyone, I would be charged. My defence cannot be that since I am licenced to own the "weapon" I am not culpable.
However if a member of the CF were to be operating a check point and raised his "weapon" in a threatening manner at someone...he/she cannot be charged as they are allowed by virtue of the job to posses the "weapon".
The two articles of the criminal code that have been referred to, although seem to contradict one another actually don't. they are not in context to each other and are not intended to be.
However if a member of the CF were to be operating a check point and raised his "weapon" in a threatening manner at someone...he/she cannot be charged as they are allowed by virtue of the job to posses the "weapon".
The two articles of the criminal code that have been referred to, although seem to contradict one another actually don't. they are not in context to each other and are not intended to be.
Yes - If you want risk a hydraulic blow up of the firearm, don't bother cleaning the bore.
I can't believe that anybody with any common sense would tell you otherwise, unless they relish the idea of you losing fingers.
THAT SAID, I personally don't believe that packing grease is any good as a LUBRICANT, and I would clean, and lubricate properly ANY firearm taht I had just purchased.
Your safety is in your hands - Don't trust us to to tell you what to do with your pistol.
When I became a glock armorer, the instructor told us that it is used for initial break in and not to clean it prior to first firing. I do recommend that you at lease run a bore snake through the barrel in case there is any crap in there from shipping.
- Location
- Calgary, AB
I didn't clean it when I got mine. My first couple rounds caused stoppages but I think it was just getting the kinks out of it. Good to go now!
Thanks for your time and suggestions everyone.
I ran a patch through the barrel and put a drop of CLP on one of the rail slides that didn't have any grease on it. I left the factory grease on and put 100 rounds of American Eagle 124 grain down range today. I had 3 stoppages during the first 10 rounds where after I fired the next round failed to load. After that she shot like a beaut. After the range I field stripped and cleaned the barrel and slide but left the factory grease on. Planning on leaving it on for another couple hundred rounds that i'll be putting through it next week then giving it a thorough cleaning.
I had debated between buying the Sig P226 and the Glock 17 but i'm happy with my decision. Not going to get into the whole which is better debate since I've come up with a great solution....get both!
I ran a patch through the barrel and put a drop of CLP on one of the rail slides that didn't have any grease on it. I left the factory grease on and put 100 rounds of American Eagle 124 grain down range today. I had 3 stoppages during the first 10 rounds where after I fired the next round failed to load. After that she shot like a beaut. After the range I field stripped and cleaned the barrel and slide but left the factory grease on. Planning on leaving it on for another couple hundred rounds that i'll be putting through it next week then giving it a thorough cleaning.
I had debated between buying the Sig P226 and the Glock 17 but i'm happy with my decision. Not going to get into the whole which is better debate since I've come up with a great solution....get both!
