Barrett 98B or PGW C14 Timberwolf??

That's kinda like putting 18" full custom rims on a $500 Yugo. If they are such a great rifle, then why does it need a new barrel, base, and trigger?
TRG42's can be had for around $3K if you pull one from the States, maybe less for a demo.
It would be suprising if it lasted half as long as the TRG, though.

You get what you pay for. Always. And more so in shooting sports.

R.
 
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Ok, assume you have a a $2500 budget for rifle less optics, with the "salvage" that gives you the gun, a shilen match barrel, a one piece base a trigger and some change. You can't even buy a trg 42 for that price, plus it wouldnt be surprising if he savage outshot the trg.
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It would be surprising to anyone who has owned a TRG-42. Trust me... they shoot!
 
Robbie,

Welcom to Canada eh! It's good you found our Timberwolf but before you drop alot of cash on a "sniper rifle" I'd suggest you consider something from Alberta Tactical Rifle Supply as well. They make dreams come true :)

If ATRS is too expensive, you can always get something cheaper as well. I believe North Shore Barrels or Jerry at Mystic Precision could hook you up.

North Shore Barrels

Mystic Precision

Alberta Tactical Rifle Supply
 
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I have a Timberwolf C14 love it! It is very accurate! You can not go wrong with the C14 and you will save some $$$ compared to the AX338. The AI 338 is a great rifle no doubt but is big money for a .338. Here is a 4 shot group I shot at 640 yards 2.9" on AR-500 screwing around with gongs. On paper this group would have printed tighter but I measured from the edges of the bullet splat marks definitely larger then .338 in dia. but oh well! paper gets so boring.

The ugly mitt in this picture is not mine ! That hand is the hand of the Greek Sniper school head instructor Viper on CGN:p I kept getting wifs of sheep dung
those Greeks love their sheep:eek:

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The rifle shot 1/2 moa and under with the 300 grain scenars all day. Of course we had 0 wind. If we had wind we would have sucked just not enough experience with reading wind:( The Greek sniper school only operates on windless days;) Here's a pic of a work in progress shooting platform:cool::cool:

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Guys, thanks SO much for all the advice and the PM's - really much appreciated.

I made contact with Rick last night, and will visit him on Monday.

I have (for now) provisionally cancelled the 98B order, and am waiting for a price on the AX338 - just so I can make an informed decision.

I will wait until I've been to ATRS before I do anything... :)

I have looked at the TRG 42's for some years, but they are pretty expensive for what you get - and I cannot get one from the USA - they will not ship them. I have asked Alex at Euro Optic and 2 other dealers already... and they're almost $5000 here in CA with the phosphorus barrel finish, and then bipods, rails and breaks are crazily priced.... And I've seen 2 cracked stocks on 42's in the past year while still in South Africa.

Thanks
 
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clatartar said:
Ok, assume you have a a $2500 budget for rifle less optics, with the "salvage" that gives you the gun, a shilen match barrel, a one piece base a trigger and some change. You can't even buy a trg 42 for that price, plus it wouldnt be surprising if he savage outshot the trg.
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I own a trg and one of my shooting buddy own a savage , the accuracy for the 2 rifle is close for the first 400-450m(around.5moa) after you cant compare the trg and the savage the trg stay .5 out to 1200m and for the savage was more in the 2moa
 
You know you guys all sit here bad mouthing the Savage but if I were you I would bad mouth the round as well. If you really want to look good build a custom in .338 LAI. Costs the same to shoot and the extra 250 fps you get out of it over factory gun is way better looking to me.
 
6mm Shooter said:
You know you guys all sit here bad mouthing the Savage but if I were you I would bad mouth the round as well. If you really want to look good build a custom in .338 LAI. Costs the same to shoot and the extra 250 fps you get out of it over factory gun is way better looking to me.
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Actually I believe when you take everything about the 338 LAI into consideration it is cheaper (the favorite word of CGN)
I just reloaded my 338 LAI brass for the 36th time last week, I seriously doubt anyone can boast that kind of life from a standard 338 Lapua casing.
So despite burning about 12 grains more powder which nets you about 250 FPS more velocity when propelling the 300 gr SMK, I think in the long run the Improved version is more cost effective to shoot.:D

The only downside if it is 1 and personally I do not think it is, is that it is hard to "mag feed" the 338 LAI as it will not feed throgh most currently available magazines, but then again EVERY mag I have found for the 338 lapua is WAAAAAY to short even for the standard cartridge:(
 
Bazzoka_Joe said:
I own a trg and one of my shooting buddy own a savage , the accuracy for the 2 rifle is close for the first 400-450m(around.5moa) after you cant compare the trg and the savage the trg stay .5 out to 1200m and for the savage was more in the 2moa
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I am confused here. Are you saying that a rifle that shoots .5 MOA at 400 to 450 mtrs magically becomes a 2 MOA shooting rifle beyond that close of a distance?:confused:
I don't think it is the rifle, more likely the shooter or some other variable.

Commonly a .5 MOA rifle shoots .5 MOA at pretty much every distance. Wind can play havoc on groups at greater distances, and some bullets do not transcend to subsonic as well as others, but assuming 1 shooting a 338 lapua is using 1 of the decent 250 to 300 gr bullets, they are a looooong way from becoming subsonic at the close a range you mention.
 
To clarify cost of the Timberwolf...$6700 includes rifle, fitted hard case, bipod, scope rail, muzzle brake, bipod, spare mag and cleaning kit....
 
Thanks for all the replies guys!!!

I went to ATRS yesterday and had a really great chat with Rick.

I will be looking into a few options - waiting for pricing and availability on an AX338. Also waiting to see how a possible AX338 chassis will work with an ATRS action and barrel.

The folding stock timberwolf is a good deal - i will decide once I have all the info and options.
 
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I am having Rick from ATR build a full custom .338LM right now. Priced out over 2k less than the ax338. But in no way is this custom "cheap". I dont have time to reload so the LAI was not an option. Dont forget to add in the cost of your glass too. I have heard nothing but good things about the guys at PGW. Though I have never been behind their rifles. I like the Custom factor when spending 6k. Scope is another 3.5k. I could have purchased 14 NICE pistols for the price of this investment. Might as well make sure you get what YOU want! At this point money should not be the issue. And I like helping the site sponsors. Buying Canadian and local is just the added bonus!
 
OilBOOM said:
I am having Rick from ATR build a full custom .338LM right now. Priced out over 2k less than the ax338. But in no way is this custom "cheap". I dont have time to reload so the LAI was not an option. Dont forget to add in the cost of your glass too. I have heard nothing but good things about the guys at PGW. Though I have never been behind their rifles. I like the Custom factor when spending 6k. Scope is another 3.5k. I could have purchased 14 NICE pistols for the price of this investment. Might as well make sure you get what YOU want! At this point money should not be the issue. And I like helping the site sponsors. Buying Canadian and local is just the added bonus!
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I couldn't agree more - I had ATRS put together a custom .308for me; exactly what I wanted not necessarily what someone else wanted. I put a S+B scope on top of it and for sure it was a lot of cash but at a certain point in life why not treat yourself :)
 
The reason I am "waiting" to see what happens, is that I like the LOOKS of the AX338 chassis, or the Cadex chassis. Rick is waiting to see if his action could be made to fit either.

I'm not a big fan of a "hunting" look on the stock for a 338 Lapua, so something like the Macmillan stocks or even the (normal) PGW stocks don't do it for me. The PGW folding stock is MUCH better to me, but I also like really tight tolerances so that it's very accurate - something most military rifles are not necessarily - they are not built to have extremely tight tolerances, as they need to work in sand, snow and harsh environments etc.... It's currently the ONLY reason why I haven;t just taken the plunge and bought the AX338 or the C14 (and for that matter, the 98B).

If Rick can get his action into an AX338 or Cadex chassis, then I'll order that. :)

Or, if the AX338's price is right, even that, as that's the "look" I like most of all, and the AX338 owners I've spoken to in the past few days, are VERY happy with their guns.

I have some time, so the wait might just be worth it.
 
Tomochan said:
I couldn't agree more - I had ATRS put together a custom .308for me; exactly what I wanted not necessarily what someone else wanted. I put a S+B scope on top of it and for sure it was a lot of cash but at a certain point in life why not treat yourself :)
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I'm not in that point of my life yet but hell, I'l treat myself soon, very soon....
 
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