Now which 233 will it be. Both are comparible price wise and and accuracy wise from what I can tell. Now which one will it be. Feel free to chime in on any last advise on either of these two an what is liked/disliked. Thanks and hopefully my next post will be with my new rig (Merry Christmas to me)
Narrowed first coyote rig to CZ 527 Varmint or Tikka T3 HB Varmint
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Ardent
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This is a very unfair comparison, as in my opinion the CZ is twice the rifle. Both are equally accurate, CZ's hammer forged barrels with integrally forged chamber are among the top tier of production barrels. The 527 action is also a true micro / scaled to .223 mini-Mauser. The amount of effort and machine work that goes into making a CZ 527 is likely on the order of three or four times that of the Tikka. The magazine system is also among the best on the market for predator hunting, with an easy to use 5 round single stack all metal detachable mag of very high quality. The CZ527 also has integral scope mounting dovetails machined right into the square receiver bridges.
CZ = Quality old world type goods that shoot well
Tikka = Modern mass produced, pennies pinched design that shoot well
Happy hunting.
I've owned the CZ many times over, multiple 527's have graced my safe and I've built several customs on them. I refuse to own or buy Tikkas, or take them on trade.
CZ = Quality old world type goods that shoot well
Tikka = Modern mass produced, pennies pinched design that shoot well
Happy hunting.
I've owned the CZ many times over, multiple 527's have graced my safe and I've built several customs on them. I refuse to own or buy Tikkas, or take them on trade.
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Oh yes, and the CZ has a far better stock, way, way higher quality on that component as well. The 527 Varmint has the perfect barrel contour for a varminter you'll walk around with as well as shoot prone.
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
As they say at this camp... "BOOM."
Having owned both, I prefer the CZ magazine and stock, triggers are a dead heat,my Tikka was more accurate,I much prefer the Tikka safety, and the short action of the CZ can make mounting certain scopes very difficult unless you obtain one of the hard to get CZ rails. Even then, I find that the CZ rail flexes more than I like. In the end,I kept the Tikka.
More then likely the Tikka will shoot just as well as a Sako its just not built as solid. The Sako action will be built around your cartridge size vs. a one size fits all Tikka action. Sako have all metal vs. the Tikka plastic trigger guard, bolt shroud, magazines ect...
If you're looking at buying a Sako Varmint Id sooner buy a Cooper, they shoot bug holes for little bit of extra $$
Ardent,
I think your description of Tikkas are B.S, if you don't like something keep your opinion with no hands on knowledge, to yourself. I have had 7 or 8 Tikka Varmints with NO troubles.
They Are:
Accurate
Reliable
Easy to take apart and clean
Do not shift impact in any weather.
Best factory trigger on the market
Same barrel as $2000 Sako
Smoothest bolt in the business
Not fussy to load for
ETC.
Also to the guy who made the comparison to junk tools..I think you should rethink your evaluation
I think your description of Tikkas are B.S, if you don't like something keep your opinion with no hands on knowledge, to yourself. I have had 7 or 8 Tikka Varmints with NO troubles.
They Are:
Accurate
Reliable
Easy to take apart and clean
Do not shift impact in any weather.
Best factory trigger on the market
Same barrel as $2000 Sako
Smoothest bolt in the business
Not fussy to load for
ETC.
Also to the guy who made the comparison to junk tools..I think you should rethink your evaluation
I have a T3 in the laminated/stainless and absolutely love it (300 Win Mag.). It is my go to elk and moose gun. It s a bit bigger and heavier than a few of my other regular hunting calibers, but it shoots like a dream. This is why I was really contemplating the T3 HB Varmint. Love the actions. Problem is that I already have a couple synthetic stock guns and wanted something a bit different to diversify my collection.
I've got several Tikka's. They're clearly designed with the main goal being economy of production. They are excellently executed - smooth, accurate and well fit - but clearly and obviously engineered with ease-of-manufacture as the highest priority. Look at the bolt, for example. The bolt handle is a separate piece to the bolt body: the only real benefit to that is that it makes the production of bolt bodies faster. They've done it well, though, and it doesn't hinder the functionality of the gun much (or at all), it's just lacking in the old-world hand-fit craftsmanship aesthetic.
The CZ design is nowhere near as mass-manufacture friendly; you couldn't just push a button on a CNC lathe and turn out a zillion of them requiring very little additional machining, as with a Tikka
Same sort of dynamic between Ruger and Savage in the states. Ruger is highly machined and forged; Savage is a simpler design, with a multi-piece bolt, floating head and barrel nut. Both work well, both have excellent reputations, and Savage does have a reputation for accuracy. Uglier, perhaps, but functionally suberb. Then again, their base model is substantially cheaper than a Ruger, passing the manufacturing savings off to the consumer.
The problem is, the Tikka is built like a Savage, but priced like a CZ. It's a $450 gun, with a $800 sticker.
The CZ design is nowhere near as mass-manufacture friendly; you couldn't just push a button on a CNC lathe and turn out a zillion of them requiring very little additional machining, as with a Tikka
Same sort of dynamic between Ruger and Savage in the states. Ruger is highly machined and forged; Savage is a simpler design, with a multi-piece bolt, floating head and barrel nut. Both work well, both have excellent reputations, and Savage does have a reputation for accuracy. Uglier, perhaps, but functionally suberb. Then again, their base model is substantially cheaper than a Ruger, passing the manufacturing savings off to the consumer.
The problem is, the Tikka is built like a Savage, but priced like a CZ. It's a $450 gun, with a $800 sticker.
oh - what twist does the CZ have? Tikka is 1 in 8, which is a HUGE plus to me, as it means I can shoot much heavier VLD-style bullets. Not as flat as a fast 50 over the first 500 yards or so, but it will drift less and be much flatter over longer distances. And with a bullet like an A-Max, it could arguably make a superior coyote killer, delivering more energy to targets at pretty much any range. At 300 yards, it's putting more ft.lbs into the target than even a 22-250 with 50 grainers
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I have one Tikka T3 light in 223. I love it. I had a savage 22-250 that gave me tighter groups but the Tikka feels much nicer. I love the silky smooth bolt and as one earlier stated, it is not fussy to load for. It does not really matter what I stuff into it, it always shoots under 1 inch groups. Even with factory ammo. I am not a fan of loading the single stack magazine but it's easy to look over that because I like the gun. The only thing I really don't like is that they build the 223 with a 1:8 twist but do not provide a magazine that is long enough to handle the long bullets. There is a modification process for the Tikka clip online if you search. I have not modified mine yet as I am not sure i want to risk it. Spare clips cost $100. Since I bought mine, the price has come down by $80 to $700. I will seriously consider another Tikka when I shop again.
I own both the CZ 527 Varmint and several Tikka T3's including the varmint in .22-250. I would take the Tikka over the CZ any day. I don't like the safety on the CZ. They have the safety the opposite of what most rifles have. Just can't get used to it.
