German captured Mosin-nagant ???

damuralt said:
An 1891 would have initially been a Russian rifle, not a Soviet one! After the October revolution they pretty much stopped making 1891 infantry rifles and concentrated on Dragoons.

I'd love to find a Finned Dragoon... Hell, I'd love to find an early 91/30 with the blade sight!
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If it's any consolation, because I'd just take a picture of my sks then my M91 and i leaved the flag on the table...blablabla

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5440fight said:
Are you sure these aren't reinactors? They look awfully well fed. Ok, a few look fat. I said it. Sue me.
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The Bolt Action said:
Lol, i notice the fact that these soldiers are fat:eek::eek: Sue me as well.
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5440fight said:
Reenactors. At Stalingrad, the Germans were literally starving, those boys look like they had their last 100 meals at the golden arches, and work at a desk.
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Some pics are real WW2 pics and others reenactment pictures...
I never said: its all real WW2 pics !!!
You asked to see some guns...
Even if there is some reenactment pictures in there , so you think the rifles are fake ??? :cool:
But yeah you are right some are FAT !!! hahaha

The Bolt Action said:
Does anyone knows why the mosin sniper rifle have almost always fabric wrap around the barell ???:confused:
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camouflage... :p
I like that !!!
 
ben777lemay said:
Some pics are real WW2 pics and others reenactment pictures...
I never said: its all real WW2 pics !!!
You asked to see some guns...
Even if there is some reenactment pictures in there , so you think the rifles are fake ??? :cool:
But yeah you are right some are FAT !!! hahaha
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The pics are great and very interesting.
I don't think there is a picture later than 1945 in those.
For the well feed soldiers ;) just look at the arm band on the right arm.
The where elite of the whermacht and probably very well feed and supply until late 1944-1945.
 
This is on a mismatched bolt, the bolt is on the wrong Mosin (M44, to late to be German WII), but has these markings, assume came from a M91 or similar at some point, the rifle has seen some rough service, I don't think they are fake as was never sold as a "special" rifle, there has been a lot of its fake comments, so be it.

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Nabs said:
A couple laps around Stalingrad will burn that fat away, if you don't have it shot off first that is :D.
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Yeah, I recently read "Enemy at the Gates: The Battle for Stalingrad". Wow. Tough times for both sides, unbelievable hardship. My neighbor when I grew up faught on the Russian front, he had no stories of being well fed, despite being wounded several times (six I believe), and little memory of being fed at all, after being captured by the Russians near the end. Brutal stuff, not for the kids.
 
The Bolt Action said:
The pics are great and very interesting.
I don't think there is a picture later than 1945 in those.
For the well feed soldiers ;) just look at the arm band on the right arm.
The where elite of the whermacht and probably very well feed and supply until late 1944-1945.
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The only Germans well fed at Stalingrad were Von Paulus and the other German high command officers. And the maggots.

Soldiers were eating the flesh of dead horses, amongst other things. I believe there were even reports of cannibalism.
 
Forty4Forty said:
This is on a mismatched bolt, the bolt is on the wrong Mosin (M44, to late to be German WII), but has these markings, assume came from a M91 or similar at some point, the rifle has seen some rough service, I don't think they are fake as was never sold as a "special" rifle, there has been a lot of its fake comments, so be it.

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That is a very interesting bolt, the German markings are the post 1938 style eagle with swazi. Shame the WaA inspector number was partially polished off otherwise we could narrow down who marked the rifle (or the bolt for that matter).

My guess is the bolt came off a 91.30 captured during the opening months of Barbarossa as that would have been the greatest influx of captured Soviet weapons for the German Wehrmacht.

Probably wrong but is it me or do I see "SS" style runes under both of the eagles left wings ? My eyes may be failing me so forgive me if I am wrong ;).

Shame you can't take these bolts, rifles...etc to a labratory to see if they can determine when the markings were applied based on exterior wearing.
 
Nabs said:
That is a very interesting bolt, the German markings are the post 1938 style eagle with swazi. Shame the WaA inspector number was partially polished off otherwise we could narrow down who marked the rifle (or the bolt for that matter).

My guess is the bolt came off a 91.30 captured during the opening months of Barbarossa as that would have been the greatest influx of captured Soviet weapons for the German Wehrmacht.

Probably wrong but is it me or do I see "SS" style runes under both of the eagles left wings ? My eyes may be failing me so forgive me if I am wrong ;).

Shame you can't take these bolts, rifles...etc to a labratory to see if they can determine when the markings were applied based on exterior wearing.
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Those do look like SS runes. I have read that because the SS was disliked by the Heer, the SS had to use captured weapons early on to supplement their issued German ones.
 
Looks like we have two Kar98k snipers, two scoped Gewehr 43s (imagine how much those would be in today's market ?), and one 91.30 sniper.

That is a lot of sharp shooters in one photo, very nice!
 
Any details on the time and place of the photo? Looks to Germany from the sign and late war from the destruction. Rather happy looking bunch given the circumstances.

The soldier on the far left - what weapon does he have? looks to be a SMG with a wooden stock. Plus he seems to have a paratrooper's helmet on if I'm not mistaken.

And Desert Fox - you just can't post a photo - how about a thread or at least a post about your sniper. Please, pretty please...
 
fugawi said:
Any details on the time and place of the photo? Looks to Germany from the sign and late war from the destruction. Rather happy looking bunch given the circumstances.

The soldier on the far left - what weapon does he have? looks to be a SMG with a wooden stock. Plus he seems to have a paratrooper's helmet on if I'm not mistaken.

And Desert Fox - you just can't post a photo - how about a thread or at least a post about your sniper. Please, pretty please...
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I believe it is a pic from around March 1945 in or around Saxony. Yes, all those guys are either Luftwaffe Ground Troops, or more likely all Fallshirmjaeger Truppen... (The did use regular Stahlhelm toward the end of the war when there were no more jumps to make.)

The FJ on the far left with the regular FJ Jump Helmet is carrying a french MAS-38 Submachine gun in 7.65mm. :)

Definitely a staged propaganda photo. They did lots of them late in the war to help improve morale.... ;)

And the G43 thread will have to be different day I think... ;)
 
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