robinson xcr question
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obviously your not that ready to pull the trigger on purchasing one if we have to convince you to do it. buy a tavor instead. otherwise if you buy a xcr you will have to buy locktite by the gallon so i read.
Hotwheels81
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No loctite here and I shoot quite a bit with mine in 7.62x39..
If you want an accurate .223 semi auto non-restricted then the xcr is a decent choice... If you want a not so accurate .223 semi there's alot of other options!
AlbertaGunslinger
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If you want an XCR then buy one. It has its advantages and disadvantages. Personally I think if a non restricted "tactical" .223 is all you are looking for buy a SU16, a pistol grip stock adapter, a compact fore end, a nice optic, a bunch of mags and ammo and save yourself a few hundred bucks while you are at it.
blaxsun
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Wasn't me!
If you want an accurate .223 semi auto non-restricted then the xcr is a decent choice... If you want a not so accurate .223 semi there's alot of other options!
Also wasn't me!
I would tend to agree that for the price point the Keltec SU-16 offers pretty good value. Compact, non-restricted and accepts AR magazines.
Wasn't me!
Also wasn't me!
I would tend to agree that for the price point the Keltec SU-16 offers pretty good value. Compact, non-restricted and accepts AR magazines.
LOL Blaxsun!
OP, if you want an XCR, then buy one; its as simple as that. If you like the look of the rifle, and you can afford the purchase, you will not be disappointed. I have one in 6.8SPC, and I absolutely love mine.
As was mentioned already though, if you need to have someone on here convince you to buy one, then perhaps you are not as ready as you think to actually buy an XCR. Do your research, talk to some XCR owners and handle/fire one before you buy (if possible); then make your decision
My two cents...
Don't worry about all the negative bull#### you get here about the XCR. If you look at the other threads on CGN, you'll find the slagging of an economically priced scope, just because it wasn't on the cover of Soldier of Fortune, killing the haj. Or the magnum, vs. non-magnum horse power race for crippling Deer match off that goes on, so in short, if you like it and aren't sure, see if you can try one out. Then if you like it, buy it and don't worry about the B.S.
blaxsun
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As was mentioned already though, if you need to have someone on here convince you to buy one, then perhaps you are not as ready as you think to actually buy an XCR. Do your research, talk to some XCR owners and handle/fire one before you buy (if possible); then make your decision
My two cents...
Good advice.
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- Brant County, Ontario
It's a big investment, but for most people it is a positive one. What do you plan on doing with it? Hunting, target shooting, competitions? If you are planning on running at the range only there are better choices for a lot less money. If you plan to hunt coyote's, deer or black bear it is an excellent choice and will serve you quite well. Plus if you are buying new and get it from Wolverine you get there outstanding warranty.
blaxsun
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As others have pointed out, it really depends on what you want to use it for. If you're just looking for a low-cost/non-restricted black rifle, something like the SU-16 or Mini-14 easily fits the bill. If you're looking for something more lightweight and compact, there are also options like the Tavor and FS2000. If you're looking for something "all-around", the XCR probably fits the bill. You can also get into more accurate (and expensive) non-restricted black rifles like the ACR and Swiss Arms.
And if it's just for the range, definitely get an AR. You won't be disappointed.
And if it's just for the range, definitely get an AR. You won't be disappointed.
I may have chosen an AR if I were a paper jockey due to the lower initial
cost but I'm not, I drag it into the bush honestly almost every single weekend and sometimes twice.
So nonrestricted was my only option and 10round mags was a must. The acr wasn't available, I heard bad things about tavors, I fondled the Swiss arms but they didn't feel right and the ar mag conversion is just too much bother, the su-16 wasn't available and it's god awfully ugly as Fu$k IMO, and I wanted something more compact than the mini 14. Another option that popped up after I purchased my xcr was the keltec rfb, I must admit I really like that gun in theory but from what I've heard they are pretty hit n miss.
So I am extremely happy with my xcr. It's hard to keep track but I must be about 42-4300 rounds through it now with not one malfunction other than me not seating the magazine all the way a few times.
I bought it, brought it home, tore it down to every single spring, screw, and pin. Cleaned, lubed and locktite'd it. Took it shooting, started on gas 4 for a few shots and all was fine, down to 3, 2 and has been on 1 since. I must admit one issue, I used a thick thick thick oil on the hammer that first cleaning/oiling. It caused primer blanking. I pulled the hammer/pin out, cleaned and relubed with very thin oil and never cleaned or oiled it again for about 4000, yes four thousand more shots, and only then I cleaned it because I was embarrased of it's muddy, and rusty condition.
The only complaints I have is I wish I could have a shorter barrel, I wish I could uses a supressor, I wish I had a "fun" selector and I wish either .223 was cheaper or I got it in 7.62x39, and I wish I had the funds for the 308 version.
cost but I'm not, I drag it into the bush honestly almost every single weekend and sometimes twice.
So nonrestricted was my only option and 10round mags was a must. The acr wasn't available, I heard bad things about tavors, I fondled the Swiss arms but they didn't feel right and the ar mag conversion is just too much bother, the su-16 wasn't available and it's god awfully ugly as Fu$k IMO, and I wanted something more compact than the mini 14. Another option that popped up after I purchased my xcr was the keltec rfb, I must admit I really like that gun in theory but from what I've heard they are pretty hit n miss.
So I am extremely happy with my xcr. It's hard to keep track but I must be about 42-4300 rounds through it now with not one malfunction other than me not seating the magazine all the way a few times.
I bought it, brought it home, tore it down to every single spring, screw, and pin. Cleaned, lubed and locktite'd it. Took it shooting, started on gas 4 for a few shots and all was fine, down to 3, 2 and has been on 1 since. I must admit one issue, I used a thick thick thick oil on the hammer that first cleaning/oiling. It caused primer blanking. I pulled the hammer/pin out, cleaned and relubed with very thin oil and never cleaned or oiled it again for about 4000, yes four thousand more shots, and only then I cleaned it because I was embarrased of it's muddy, and rusty condition.
The only complaints I have is I wish I could have a shorter barrel, I wish I could uses a supressor, I wish I had a "fun" selector and I wish either .223 was cheaper or I got it in 7.62x39, and I wish I had the funds for the 308 version.
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- Brant County, Ontario
I agree with Blaxsun. If its only for the range then the AR is probably the best option. If off the range then then you need to look at other guns.
If you want a range rifle and to keep the costs down then you can also look at a short barrel or non restricted CZ (I have a tricked out CZ 858-4V).
Lots of after market accessories now. Wolverine is importing magwell adapters so you can use 10 round pistols mags in .223/x39/6.8 SPC.
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Lots of after market accessories now. Wolverine is importing magwell adapters so you can use 10 round pistols mags in .223/x39/6.8 SPC.[/QUOTE] exqueeze me?? Do you mean mag adapters to fit LAR mags in the 858?? This is white nifty news. 5rounders can ef right off, well anything under 30 can but 10 is still twice less ### than 5.
Lots of after market accessories now. Wolverine is importing magwell adapters so you can use 10 round pistols mags in .223/x39/6.8 SPC.[/QUOTE] exqueeze me?? Do you mean mag adapters to fit LAR mags in the 858?? This is white nifty news. 5rounders can ef right off, well anything under 30 can but 10 is still twice less ### than 5.
No matter what people say XCR found itself in a very good niche market, there is no other rifle than can compare right now, first of all it is back up by a very solid exclusive distributor in Wolverine Supplies, no other company in Canada can even compare with the service and reputations of Mr. Hipwell, no matter who you end up buying the XCR from, they will look after you.
like many have say before you need to decide what you want to do with it, if you want stick to the range than AR is the easiest choice, however if you want the flexibility of taking it out in the wood and shoot some rodents and varmints than the choice gets wider with SU-2000, Mini-14, Benelli, SA, Tavor, FN2000 and HK SL-8. however with the advantage of XCR is the caliber switch, it is range gun that shoots Czech surplus 7.62 at half the price of .223, than you can switch over to 6.8 SPC and use it to fill you freeze and put meat on the table.
the bottom line is there are cheaper or more refine alternatives, but none of them have the flexibilities of XCR.
like many have say before you need to decide what you want to do with it, if you want stick to the range than AR is the easiest choice, however if you want the flexibility of taking it out in the wood and shoot some rodents and varmints than the choice gets wider with SU-2000, Mini-14, Benelli, SA, Tavor, FN2000 and HK SL-8. however with the advantage of XCR is the caliber switch, it is range gun that shoots Czech surplus 7.62 at half the price of .223, than you can switch over to 6.8 SPC and use it to fill you freeze and put meat on the table.
the bottom line is there are cheaper or more refine alternatives, but none of them have the flexibilities of XCR.
Magwell adapters to fit 10 round Robarms .223/x39/6.8 SPC pistol mags for the XCR pistols in CZ 858 and the CSA rifles.
I have to admit that after reading the exploits of camp cook and others hunting with their 6.8 SPC, I'm rethinking whether or not I want a XCR-M. The L version does give you the option of using surplus 7.62x39mm on the range for practice/pliinking then switching to 6.8 SPC for deer.
And with the availability of 10 rounds XCR mags for these calibers the XCR is on the same page mag capacity wise with the AR for CQB matches.
Excellent multi-caliber modular rifle:
My advice is very simple:
If you want 6.8 SPC , 7.62x39 or AR15 magazines get an XCR-L
If you don't need the above and have the money get a Swiss Arms Green Rifle.
Alex
- conversion kit for 223, 6.8 SPC and 7.62x39
- uses AR15 magazines
- large pictanny rail
- takes AR15 grips, stocks (with adapter) and rail accessoiries
- excellent trigger
- very accurate heavy 18.6" barrel
- very solid (and heavy) construction
My advice is very simple:
If you want 6.8 SPC , 7.62x39 or AR15 magazines get an XCR-L
If you don't need the above and have the money get a Swiss Arms Green Rifle.
Alex
