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Done my RPAL and have just put a deposit on a CZ75B Omega. Reports are good and it fits me nice far as I can tell. Never had a pistol before and dont know anybody except members that use them. I have read some online stuff that seems to indicate this was a good choice.
Pros/Cons??
 
There are no cons of any CZ guns, they are very good solid pistol. I think they come with plastic grips, if you can replace a pair of shadow rubber grips, it will help you hold the gun much better.

Trigun
 
OP- See if you can rent or borrow one before you throw down. They're a great choice, but it's hard to go wrong with any 9mm in that price range so you might as well get the one that fits the absolute best.

Trigun said:
There are no cons of any CZ guns, they are very good solid pistol. I think they come with plastic grips, if you can replace a pair of shadow rubber grips, it will help you hold the gun much better.

Trigun
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Heavier than a comparable polymer framed gun. I don't really like how long the trigger reset is on mine.
 
They're nice-shooting guns, even if they aren't up to the long term reliability/durability standards of more modern designs, such as 3rd generation Glocks. I say this as an owner of a CZ 75B. It isn't necessarily that big of a deal for most recreational use, but you should expect to replace small parts like springs and slide stops at an earlier interval compared with the above Glock.
 
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They're nice-shooting guns, even if they aren't up to the long term reliability/durability standards of more modern designs, such as 3rd generation Glocks. I say this as an owner of a CZ 75B. It isn't necessarily that big of a deal for most recreational use, but you should expect to replace small parts like springs and slide stops at an earlier interval compared with the above Glock.
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7000 rounds with my cz75b and still counting
I never replaced a single part on this pistol
 
The CZ75B Omega is the newest version of the venerable 75B and they seem to think they have improved on the design especially the trigger. I have just ordered a set of the CZ rubber grips for this. Heard that somewhere before and was looking for some nice wood grips when I found these. I am curious that someone would think this to be a light duty rig as apparently they are used by a large number of police forces in Europe.
I am primarily a longbore shooter anyways so I am not likely to wear this one out although my friends may change that....
 
trimble said:
7000 rounds with my cz75b and still counting
I never replaced a single part on this pistol
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Mine is at about 8,000 rounds. It broke the trigger return spring at about 1,500 rounds and I haven't had any other breakages since.

7,000 or 8,000 rounds is not a particularly high round count. I don't think a CZ 75 will do as well for a round count like this:

http://pistol-training.com/archives/985

I like my CZ, but I also understand that they aren't in the top tier of current production auto pistols. I wouldn't say that they're a POS by any means, but you should have some understanding of what to expect out of them.
 
I am still a rookie. However, I did not find the trigger on my CZ 75 Omega to be that great. In fact I didn't realize it until I shot, now don't laugh, my buddies M&P 9mm. The trigger on the M&P was easier IMO.

I ended up buying a CZ Shadow and am very happy with it.
 
tjhaile said:
They're nice-shooting guns, even if they aren't up to the long term reliability/durability standards of more modern designs, such as 3rd generation Glocks. I say this as an owner of a CZ 75B. It isn't necessarily that big of a deal for most recreational use, but you should expect to replace small parts like springs and slide stops at an earlier interval compared with the above Glock.
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You are kidding right? The 85 Combat has had issues with the ambi- slide stop but the 75?B? Never heard of one gong down. I had a 85 Combat Pre B with well over 50K rounds through it before the right side slide stop broke. Never did replace a spring.

To the OP your 75 B will be around longer than you will be or your grand kids. Very nice pistol. I would try out a regular 75B as well if you still can. The Omega has had mixed reviews. some folks aren't into changes and that might account for some of the nay sayers.

Glocks are on their fourth attempt at getting it right and from what I read they are replacing parts under warranty on their 4th attempt already.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
You are kidding right? The 85 Combat has had issues with the ambi- slide stop but the 75?B? Never heard of one gong down. I had a 85 Combat Pre B with well over 50K rounds through it before the right side slide stop broke. Never did replace a spring.

To the OP your 75 B will be around longer than you will be or your grand kids. Very nice pistol. I would try out a regular 75B as well if you still can. The Omega has had mixed reviews. some folks aren't into changes and that might account for some of the nay sayers.

Glocks are on their fourth attempt at getting it right and from what I read they are replacing parts under warranty on their 4th attempt already.

Take Care

Bob
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I am dead serious. The slide stop is a known failure point:
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=35460

When you don't hear guys like Larry Vickers or Ken Hackathorn recommending CZs, I would call that a clue.

Don't get me wrong here; I'm not slagging the CZ 75. I own one and am thus far mostly satisfied with it. I just think that if someone wants to know what they're like, a realistic assessment of their strengths and weaknesses is more helpful than the usual internet forum fanboyism. Somebody has to play the Devil's Advocate.

Glock pretty much had it right functionally on the 9mm pre-2011 Generation 3 models, whatever their ergonomic shortcomings. "Glock: pretty damn good, most of the time" would be a more accurate slogan, though not very good advertising copy.
 
bogie,
I recommend you try a set of cZ factory rubber grips. I tried a set on speculation and now they are on all my cZs.
 
I have asked the shop to get me a set of the rubber grips. I agree all the way and had a look on their site to see what was available. Have since changed my mind as I came into some more money and am going for the CZ85B as I am left handed. Full ambidextrous all the way but same gun basically.
Thanks.
Sold a rifle that was extra to my needs in 2 hours yesterday!! Damn I love this site. :)
 
tjhaile said:
Mine is at about 8,000 rounds. It broke the trigger return spring at about 1,500 rounds and I haven't had any other breakages since.

7,000 or 8,000 rounds is not a particularly high round count. I don't think a CZ 75 will do as well for a round count like this:

http://pistol-training.com/archives/985

I like my CZ, but I also understand that they aren't in the top tier of current production auto pistols. I wouldn't say that they're a POS by any means, but you should have some understanding of what to expect out of them.
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60K rds isn't high mileage for a CZ either, shooters do replace barrels after 100-150K thou, usually :)
I had one part break on my Shadow (after 35K rds) so far - slide stop, due to me dropping slide on empty chamber all the time.
 
The M and P looks to be a plastic frame and the CZ85 I am looking at is all steel. Not likely to be a problem for me. Lots of very old steel actions around. Still not willing to trust a plastic gun. Extra weight is not a problem. I can live with 2lbs. Still some original 1911s being used with little or no problem with the frames. I take that as a good sign. Then again with 2 pistols (one 22 and one 9mm) it is unlikely that either gun will get to that level of use. Interesting though.
 
tekarra said:
bogie,
I recommend you try a set of cZ factory rubber grips. I tried a set on speculation and now they are on all my cZs.
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I'd advise to try the gun first to see if shooter needs slimmer grips. Two of my buddies got Shadows recently and both needed slimmest grips due to their hand size.

IMHO, Omega trigger system is fine for a duty gun, not for enthusiast or competitor.
 
bogie said:
I have asked the shop to get me a set of the rubber grips. I agree all the way and had a look on their site to see what was available. Have since changed my mind as I came into some more money and am going for the CZ85B as I am left handed. Full ambidextrous all the way but same gun basically.
Thanks.
Sold a rifle that was extra to my needs in 2 hours yesterday!! Damn I love this site. :)
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Go for the 85 Combat rather than the "B". The 85 Combat doesn't have the firing pin block and IMHO will have a nicer trigger.

Take Care

Bob
 
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