Loading 5 + 1 in SKS?

Dexter Morgan said:
Thanks. That's basically how I envisioned it.
Just wondering if there's some reason why it wouldn't work.

Do you get a lot of pinched fingers?
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why not just shoot 5 rounds...? does that one rounds really worth the chance of mis-fire?

Assuming you are not training to be a freedom fighter... the target will wait for you to reload...:p
 
When closing the bolt on the chambered round, don't let the bolt slam shut. Just close it, make sure it is locked.
To be able to load six, it is necessary that the magazine be blocked for 5 1/2 rounds, so to speak.
 
tiriaq said:
When closing the bolt on the chambered round, don't let the bolt slam shut. Just close it, make sure it is locked.
To be able to load six, it is necessary that the magazine be blocked for 5 1/2 rounds, so to speak.
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A very interesting thread. As Tiriaq says, the pinning must permit enough room for the top round in the mag to low enough to permit the bolt to sclear it. My Tulas both, '51 & '53 have the freaking ugly round plugbut I can chamber a round, load 5 in the mag, thumb hold down the top mag round and slide the bolt home. This technique seems useless for a milsurp competition like at the EOHC shoots but could be useful in some other situation. :eek:
 
The way this thread is going is making it seem like its alot more possible to have a sks slam fire with 5+1 witch is completly WRONG IMO, its just as much possible closing the bolt with he standard 5 rounds loaded. (standard in canada :p) Ive had my sks slam fire on me, but not from closing the bolt was second round shot and shot the following round after. after hundreds and hundreds of rounds it has only happened once.

Now to answer the question, looks like some people are having luck, but when i tryed with mine there wasent enough room to compress the 5th round deep enough into the mag to close the bolt, It just dug into the case of the 5th round.

I prefer to load 5, because as mentioned before 10 devides by 2 equaly :p haha

Thanks

Dave
 
To me , the only way to have a misfire while loading 5+1 is if the person doing it slams the bolt home without pushing the first round in the mag down, thus stripping a round off the mag and hitting the primer of the already chambered round with the tip of the bullet. Never experienced a slamfire with my SKSs , but i always clean them meticulously after use and make sure the firing pin can rattle freely inside the bolt as it's supposed to.
Too much lubrication and colder temps and/or grime will cause it to stick or jam resulting in slamfires.
 
Dave_D said:
The way this thread is going is making it seem like its alot more possible to have a sks slam fire with 5+1 witch is completly WRONG IMO, its just as much possible closing the bolt with he standard 5 rounds loaded. (standard in canada :p) Ive had my sks slam fire on me, but not from closing the bolt was second round shot and shot the following round after. after hundreds and hundreds of rounds it has only happened once.

Now to answer the question, looks like some people are having luck, but when i tryed with mine there wasent enough room to compress the 5th round deep enough into the mag to close the bolt, It just dug into the case of the 5th round.

I prefer to load 5, because as mentioned before 10 devides by 2 equaly :p haha

Thanks

Dave
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just a thought i have accidentally bump fired from the shoulder a couple times totally unintentional but it happens. my friend was firing it one day and the same thing happened to him. has nothing to do with slam fires or loading 5+1 but you mentioned firing a shot and a possible slam fire following and never repeating again... this is most likely what happened.i have checked my trigger group and it stays cocked when banged around and has little to no creep in it as well. i was a bit shocked when it happened to me though.
 
Dexter Morgan said:
I just ordered one actually. Hopefully I'll have it some time next week.
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Good on ya. Load 5 at a time and never mind this nonsense of trying to squeeze another round in there. In the time it would take to jimmy one in there, you could have loaded another 5.
Maybe getting a sixth round in there makes some of the folks here feel like there getting one over on the "man".
 
Chumlee Bumsnag said:
Good on ya. Load 5 at a time and never mind this nonsense of trying to squeeze another round in there. In the time it would take to jimmy one in there, you could have loaded another 5.
Maybe getting a sixth round in there makes some of the folks here feel like there getting one over on the "man".
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lol That's exactly how I felt (my M14 fits 5 in the mag + 1 in the chamber easily). I would do it while target shooting all the time until I realized that it was a waste of time :D
Way easier to just stripper clip in 5 more rounds.
 
If you really have to do it, just load a round in the chamber then turn the rifle upside down and open the mag. Drop 5 rounds in and close the mag. I prefer to make 5 rounds stripper clips but if you want to load 6 thats the way i would do it.
 
Liketoknow said:
why not just shoot 5 rounds...? does that one rounds really worth the chance of mis-fire?

Assuming you are not training to be a freedom fighter... the target will wait for you to reload...:p
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I was thinking the same thing, the clips are in 10's so why make it un even for 1 extra round? But it sure is possible.
 
I was thinking the same thing, the clips are in 10's so why make it un even for 1 extra round? But it sure is possible.
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Most of the ammo now is not coming on stripper clips. It just comes loose in a box.

If the ammo you have now is on clips, don't throw them out.
 
Dexter Morgan said:
Most of the ammo now is not coming on stripper clips. It just comes loose in a box.

If the ammo you have now is on clips, don't throw them out.
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Yeah I realize that, what I was saying was the clips can hold 10 rounds so loading 5 in and putting an extra one is just making things un even. If you have your ammo loaded in clips it would be useless to load an extra one in. Sorry for the confusing statement.

But be sure I will not throw them out if I get some!
 
DILLIGAF said:
slam fire is a myth... Never Heard of one and Never had one....
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No myth, had it happen on three separate occasions with my Tula SKS and czech ammo.A small disklike flake off the primers of the cartridges migrated and stacked up in the firing pin channel, jamming the pin in position (portruding from bolt face).I disassembled the rifle and counted 11 of these disks of debris metal from the channel the first time.

And I ruined both springs that came with the aftermarket pin trying to remove them whilst they were jammed up by the offending metal bits.In less than 2/3 of a crate of ammo.And this was twice with the aftermarket spring loaded pin, once after i re installed the factory floating pin.
 
You can load 5+1. I've done it several times.

With an UNLOADED (no ammy anywhere in it) rifle with the safety ON...

1. Release the mag and let it hang.
2. CAREFULLY load one round into the chamber and ease the bolt forward 2/3rds of the way and then let it snap gently in place.
3. Turn your rifle upside down and dump five rounds into the mag housing.
4. Close your mag smartly on the rounds already loaded into the mag housing.

Done.
 
Can someone help me out......I don't get this thread:weird:......Just remove the restriction in your mag {totally illegal and now a prohibited device} then you get 10rds. :eek:......Or would you still persist in trying to fit # 11 in there :bangHead:......after the fiddle fu<king around I could blast 40rds off the clip whilst the un-named are flipping the rifle around to get a 6th or 11th {duh} in.....I just don't understand. ovrec
 
plinker 777 said:
Can someone help me out......I don't get this thread:weird:......Just remove the restriction in your mag {totally illegal and now a prohibited device} then you get 10rds. :eek:......Or would you still persist in trying to fit # 11 in there :bangHead:......after the fiddle fu<king around I could blast 40rds off the clip whilst the un-named are flipping the rifle around to get a 6th or 11th {duh} in.....I just don't understand. ovrec
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To each his own....I just don't understand why that concept is so hard for you to grasp . It can be done and the guy wants to do it , it doesn't have to be convenient or pleasing for you.:rolleyes:
 
i like the idea of just dumping rounds in an upside down rifle and then slamming the mag closed. i got a question that will mess everyone up. if you remove the gas piston and your rifle is now manual operated can you then legally have the 10 round magazine? hahahahahaha
 
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