Taico-Squires Bingham Model 20. Junk?

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Hey Guys,

This semi has been in my family for nearly 40 years. Is it junk or just tired? It doesn't run reliably at all. Mostly stove pipes with some failure to feeds. I ran it today with some stingers and it ran better than ever before. Mostly though you can't get through a mag without a failure or two or three.

Anything and everything that you can tell me about this neat little gun would be great.

Thanks,
Trevor
 
TrevorF said:
No question, it was filthy! I've been cleaning it since I originally posted my first msg. Anyone know where I can get a mag?
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Have you disassembled the receiver so you can do a real cleanup inside, of the bolt and receiver tube?

If it's the same action as the M16, you unthread the rear cap, carefully capture the springs that sproing out, then withdraw everything and do a big clean up.

Should make it run like a champ.
 
Here's a parts diagram for the model 20
http://031d26d.namesecurehost.com/gunfax/rimfires/armscortypes.jpg

Interesting reading on the M16
http://pnwguns.com/auto-rifles/228-22lr-project-i-took-squires-bingham-m1600.html
 
One of my favourite .22s!

Try Western Gun Parts for mags.
Numrich carrys mags too, but only exports ten round mags.

Now putting the thing back together, that is where I had my troubles.
 
lawn gnome said:
One of my favourite .22s!

Try Western Gun Parts for mags.
Numrich carrys mags too, but only exports ten round mags.

Now putting the thing back together, that is where I had my troubles.
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Yes...there is a "tripping lever" that has to be held back with a little punch, before the bolt can go in. Then there is trying to captivate those springs without binding or having them sprong...good times! :)
 
CZ_Brno said:
Here's a parts diagram for the model 20
http://031d26d.namesecurehost.com/gunfax/rimfires/armscortypes.jpg

Interesting reading on the M16
http://pnwguns.com/auto-rifles/228-22lr-project-i-took-squires-bingham-m1600.html
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They were originally branded SQUIBMAN until the late 60s. Changed to Squires Bingham in the 70s and 80s, and eventually to the current Armscor. One of the oldest Arms Manufacturing in South East Asia. My Dad used to have the model with tubular magazine, still works and in tip-top shape now with my cousin. We still have a 60's 12 Ga pump shotgun, and works like a charm. The only part replaced was the firing pin.

Guns made until 60's are the better ones, built like tanks. 70s to 80s was the transition period. Cheaper manufacturing cost means cheaper product. But quality suffered during this period. 90s to current represents a modern manufacturing process. Better quality but a little expensive. They are not the best in the market and definitely NOT JUNK.
 
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Great stuff guys thanks for all the help. I did a detail strip and clean up so I hope it works better. The mag is still pretty dirty and may be tired. I hope to find one soon. I'm going to post some pics soon. It has the cooled muzzel break on it!
 
TrevorF said:
Great stuff guys thanks for all the help. I did a detail strip and clean up so I hope it works better. The mag is still pretty dirty and may be tired. I hope to find one soon. I'm going to post some pics soon. It has the cooled muzzel break on it!
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New mags for the M20 right here.

ht tp://sporteque.ca/product.php?id_product=842
 
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TrevorF said:
Great stuff guys thanks for all the help. I did a detail strip and clean up so I hope it works better. The mag is still pretty dirty and may be tired. I hope to find one soon. I'm going to post some pics soon. It has the cooled muzzel break on it!
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I used to own 2 Squires Bingham M16's . They need high velocity or hyper velocity ammo for them to run properly. With regular standard 22 ammo i got alot of stove pipes. My 2 cents, for all it's worth.
 
I got the mag apart with no issues. I put it all back together and successfully manually cycle the whole mag with no failures.
Now to go test fire it!

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That's a nice looking rifle.

Trevor- Could we please see some closeups from different angles of that muzzle brake?
Did it come with that new as far as you know? Or was added on by someone later?

I wonder if that 30 round mag for the M20 would fit and function in a SB M16? I think you'd have to use a tool to reach in and release it, but as for function?
 
When I had my shop, another business was selling these. He offered no service, so they were brought to me. I worked on enough of his that I chose not to sell them; knew they would be coming back.

They must be kept clean; they are not the easiest to detail strip and reassemble.
Firing pins are prone to breakage.
The trigger block safety is steel, the part of the trigger that it engages is aluminum. Steel on aluminum is an invitation to wear. When wear occurs, the safety becomes unreliable.

I often thought that if $5 more had been put into the manufacturing level in the Phillipines, they would have been a pretty nice rifle. They are accurate.
 
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