10/22 mag loose in mag well (front to back)

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Hey Nutters,

Can anyone with a 10/22 tell me if it's normal to have a slight movement of the magazine in the mag well. The movement is more of a front to back nature and not a side to side movement. I've noticed it move with the factory 10-rounder, as well as Butler Creek steel-lip 25-rounders. Although the factory mag has less movement than the BCs do. I noticed the movement not too long ago, and I don't know if it developed slowly over time or whether it came that way to begin with. The 10/22 was bought a week ago, so it's relatively new. I noticed it one day when I was reloading, and more so when I would gently rest my hand underneath using the mags as a vertical hand grip (I was not using any force when doing so). No FTF, but maybe it could be an issue down the road. The movement is very slight, but it is annoying. The factory mag has a more leveled back to front movement (max. 3mm), while the BC has more of a radial back to front movement (max. 5mm). I have taken the mag latch/spring apart and fixed it slightly by stretching the mag spring out a bit before putting it back in. I can still move it to the same degree, but there is slightly more tension now. Could the factory receiver be out of spec, or is this normal. It doesn't seem to be an issue now, but I'm worried about future reliability. Has anyone dealt with this, and is this normal?

Also, The mags fall out more freely when the bolt is pulled back. When the mags are released with the bolt closed, they have a harder time falling out freely. Is this normal too?

Thanks guys,
From a concerned 10/22 noob!
 
Are you using the "pinned" Ruger 25rnd mags? Lucky.

Anyway, yes... slight forward to back is normal. I just checked with my 10rnd Ruger mags.

BTW, I got rid of all my Butler Creek mags because there was enough movement to cause a FTF if knocked, slightly.
An FTF can also occur with factory Ruger mags, but you need to apply a little more force.

~Cheers
 
G37 said:
Are you using the "pinned" Ruger 25rnd mags? Lucky.

Anyway, yes... slight forward to back is normal. I just checked with my 10rnd Ruger mags.

BTW, I got rid of all my Butler Creek mags because there was enough movement to cause a FTF if knocked, slightly.
An FTF can also occur with factory Ruger mags, but you need to apply a little more force.

~Cheers
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Pinned Ruger 25 round mags? You must mean the BX-25. Didn't know there were pinned ones floating around. The only Ruger mag I have is the 10 round OEM mag that came with the 10/22. I wonder if you could cannibalize a stiffer spring from something else to replace the stock mag spring. I bet that would do a good job at fixing the play. By FTF, you must mean that the bolt was hitting the steel lips at a weird angle and getting stuck unable to chamber a new round. Or was the bolt able to move forward and not chamber the round correctly? I wounder if a you could set a round off out of battery?
 
It wont fire out of battery, and wouldnt be safe for Ruger to sell if it did. The hammer hits the back edge of the bolt rather than the firing pin. It will still click but no bang. As for the movement it is normal and needs no attention, aside from not tweaking hicap mags while shooting. Even TI25 mags are suppossed to be adjusted for a little wiggle.
 
Puts me a little more at ease. Thanks super. Can I damage something buy reloading without holding the bolt open manually? I just usually replace mags and rack the bolt back without using that annoying bolt hold open.
 
formerfarmer said:
Why would you hold the bolt back when inserting a loaded mag in a 10-22?
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I don't, but the instruction manual put out by Ruger says different. I guess I'm more worried about damaging the firearm after reading the instructions and noticing that the mag does not fall out when released as opposed to the mag freely falling out when bolt is held open. I just wanted to make sure, better safe than sorry.
 
I guess I missed that part or it just was not in the manual when I got my 10-22 in 1974. Never heard of holding the bolt back till now and I don't think I will bother doing so at this late date. To each their own.
 
Yup i agree with formerfarmer, my manual doesn`t say anything about holding back the bolt when loading mags. Mine is from the mid 70`s though, only ftf i had with any mag was when i mistakenly grabbed a box of shorts, must have been asleep to not notice the difference.:redface:
 
Im not sure why Ruger would want you to hold the bolt open when loading a mag, maybe a dumbass lawyers idea of safety? I rarely use the bolt hold open, and after years of use it hasnt developed any problems.
 
I don't mean holding the bolt open manually, but rather to use the auto-bolt stop/release. I couldn't understand why you would do that, unless to clear a jam. Or leave it open to prove it's safe when in storage (I leave it closed so the dust doesn't get in), or at the range. In the manual, I think they're getting more at the fact to observe whether the chamber is clear before loading a mag. But it should already be clear unless you're a fool. So I guess Ruger is just covering themselves from all the retards out there. I just wanted to make sure because I'm not familiar with the 10/22 and didn't want to damage it. I guess I'll just keep on doing what I was doing and not use the auto bolt stop/release when changing mags out.
 
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