CSA Carbine Accuracy in .223 or 762x39

StrikerSW

StrikerSW

Regular
Rating - 100%
25   0   0
Location
Ontario
I have not yet bought my CSA carbine, few other firearms jumped cue and ended up in my gun safe last year, but this spring I intend to pick up the carbine. My considerations have been which caliber is more accurate. Ability to swap parts. Mag's of course are not interchangeable but many of the basic parts must be able to be used in either firearm. In the event one needed to scavenge parts from one rifle to keep another functioning it's an advantage in my book, to be able to swap out as many parts as possible. Not the biggest consideration but the 762x39 adds more mags to my supply of existing CZ858 mag's

One would figure the ballistics of the 223 round would be better in this department. That said, these carbines are not sniper rifles and do have shorter barrels. I'm wondering if there is much of a difference in accuracy out to say 100 metres.

I figure the CSA Czech Small Arms 7.5" Compact would be really stretching accuracy at even 100 metres ........ could be wrong. The 223 should be the most accurate at the sacrifice of some stopping power.

Anyway, any thoughts or insight would be appreciated. I am leaning towards the CSA 7.62x39 11.8" Carbine as I do have a good supply of this cartridge. The added cartridge power being traded for a a little less accuracy.
 
Last edited:
I dont want to hijack your thread, But i too will be buying one of the NR VZ 58 .233.
My question is the plastic mags how bad are they and do they have feed problems. will they break if tapped by something.
 
I've shot both and both are plenty accurate for a SBR. I ordered the x39 today for ease of ammo supply, reliability of parts/mags, cartridge power and the fact that there are already tons of really bad a$$ restricted rifles in the price range in .223/5.56.

Just my rationalizations.
 
Hokus Grey said:
I've shot both and both are plenty accurate for a SBR. I ordered the x39 today for ease of ammo supply, reliability of parts/mags, cartridge power and the fact that there are already tons of really bad a$$ restricted rifles in the price range in .223/5.56.

Just my rationalizations.
Click to expand...

+1. I leave the .223/5.56 to my AR15. My CSA is 7.62x39.
 
I have a CZ858 in 7.62 and a CSA VZ58 in 5.56. The guns are both tremendously fun to shoot. The 5.56 plastic mags have been just fine in my gun. They are tough and I have never had any kind of break with all 9 of my mags. If I was going to buy the carbine, it would be a tough choice, but the I would lean to the 7.62 just because ammo is so stinkin' cheap. I usually end up leaving my M4gery at home.
 
On a bench, using a Kobra, I can hit a gong @ 200m 95% of the time. The 7.62x39 does not suffer as much of velocity drop when going short.
Go for it, you will be pleasantly pleased.
 
I have a NR CSA in 5.56 and I love it. The only downside is of course ammo price compared to 7.62x39. However, I wanted a 5.56 and as far as bang for your buck, the CSA beats out everything else as far as non-res goes. With fab furniture all around, aimpoint comp ML3, 7 extra mags, 200 lumen surefire w/ mount and nea hybrid flash suppressor I am still into this rifle for less than the cost of most non res .223's. Only issue with it was a broken firing pin, which wolverine was happy to replace. Mags are quite sturdy, I find they scuff up fairly easy, however I toss mine around quite a bit and haven't had issues. I would say you could do much worse than buying a 5.56 CSA!

Edit: sorry didn't realize you were after the carbine as opposed to the sporter. Can't say much with regards to the carbine, but I imagine you would enjoy it as much as I enjoy the sprorter!
 
Last edited:
I went with the carbine, I have a few 5.56 guns, and 7.62x39 doesn't suffer as much velocity loss as 5.56, as mentioned by another poster above. Also 7.62 x39 is dirt cheap.
 
I feel like some of the other guys above. .223 should stay with the m4 while all of my CZ/VZ/CSA's are all 762x39. They are all very accurate, but at 50-100y my 7.5" is my fav to blast off. Lots of stopping power and dirt cheap ammo (for now, knock on wood)
 
For my intended use (inside 100yrds) I don't really care if my .223 AR shoots more accurate than my 7.62x39 CSA VZ58 Carbine (or vise versa).
However, IMO...x39 is more "fun" to shoot
 
Thanks for all the reply's everyone. I'll pick up a CSA in 762x39. I am considering Marstar's FSN-01K for the bluing finish over the black paint. Not that I would ever shoot it until it was hot enough to burn off the paint. But would the bluing finish be better than the black paint for durability.
 
I have had my 7.5" 1/2 a year and 11.8" for 1 year and neither has shown ANY WHERE paint flaking or chipping off. Exceptions are from taking the hardware off with metal tools though. :( . My mistake.
 
bfiles said:
I have had my 7.5" 1/2 a year and 11.8" for 1 year and neither has shown ANY WHERE paint flaking or chipping off. Exceptions are from taking the hardware off with metal tools though. :( . My mistake.
Click to expand...

Thanks for info bfiles, I prefer the Black colour, was just a little concerned at the paint being baked off as i had seen on Youtube during extremely high volume ammo testing. Sounds plenty durable enough to me. I have my original NEA Handguards all ready for one of these firearms.

My CZ858 was build without concern for weight; this ones going to be built as light as reasonably possible. I quite like the look of your CSA.
 
bfiles said:
I feel like some of the other guys above. .223 should stay with the m4 while all of my CZ/VZ/CSA's are all 762x39. They are all very accurate, but at 50-100y my 7.5" is my fav to blast off. Lots of stopping power and dirt cheap ammo (for now, knock on wood)
Click to expand...

What size groups do you get with the 7.5" at 100yds?
 
Who sells them? so far I know of Wolverine and Badger, anyone else?

ps: I have a WTB ad in the EE if anyone looking to sell theirs.
 
IM_Lugger said:
Who sells them? so far I know of Wolverine and Badger, anyone else?

ps: I have a WTB ad in the EE if anyone looking to sell theirs.
Click to expand...

Frontier Firearms and SFRC also sell these. I can tell you from personal experience that Wolverine, and SFRC have always been excellent to deal with. I'll likely buy from Ryan at SFRC again.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom