Haven't had one of these before, what kinda price do these usual go for. It is a factory converted to single shot .410, bore and wood are VG. From my understanding they usually go from around 325-400 depending on condition. Any one dealt with these before have a better idea?
1917 Lee enfield factory converted to .410, worth?
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These chambered the .410 MUSKET cartridge and were used for guard and prison duty.
The casing is a .303 which has not been tapered or necked. It is generally loaded with a small charge of chopped Cordite (like a shotgun powder) and a single .410" round ball with the case-mouth coned lightly over it to hold it in place. Shot rounds also were issued.
SOME were converted to handle the commercial .410 shotshell by deepening the chambers to 2-3/4 or 3". Length of the original round is 2.222". If only the chamber has been deepened, then the gun will have excess headspace, the .410 shotshell having a much thinner rim than the .063" of the .303. Loading your own on .303 brass, I find fun with a .375" BP pistol ball or two in a plastic .410 wad cup and a charge of Unique.
They are an historical anomaly: the last true MUSKETS made or issued for military use, a Musket being, by definition, a military shoulder weapon with a SMOOTH BORE.
Muskets are fun. Take it shooting and you'll find out.
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The casing is a .303 which has not been tapered or necked. It is generally loaded with a small charge of chopped Cordite (like a shotgun powder) and a single .410" round ball with the case-mouth coned lightly over it to hold it in place. Shot rounds also were issued.
SOME were converted to handle the commercial .410 shotshell by deepening the chambers to 2-3/4 or 3". Length of the original round is 2.222". If only the chamber has been deepened, then the gun will have excess headspace, the .410 shotshell having a much thinner rim than the .063" of the .303. Loading your own on .303 brass, I find fun with a .375" BP pistol ball or two in a plastic .410 wad cup and a charge of Unique.
They are an historical anomaly: the last true MUSKETS made or issued for military use, a Musket being, by definition, a military shoulder weapon with a SMOOTH BORE.
Muskets are fun. Take it shooting and you'll find out.
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I have an ugly old beast that has been doctored to accept 3". I had trouble getting .410 shotshells to ignite. My first attempt was to put a small rubber o-ring over the hull to bring it back a bit. They did fire, but that isn't the best way. I rummaged around in my "stores" and tried a bolt from a derelict No.1 rifle. Bingo! Fires every time.
I also bought a supply of Mag Tech (sp?) proper .410 brass and some 444 Marlin brass, which is a bit shorter. I also stocked up on .410 hulls and store bought ammo.
These old pelters are great fun, and aren't all that common. They make a great conversation piece as well as being fun to load for and shoot.
I also bought a supply of Mag Tech (sp?) proper .410 brass and some 444 Marlin brass, which is a bit shorter. I also stocked up on .410 hulls and store bought ammo.
These old pelters are great fun, and aren't all that common. They make a great conversation piece as well as being fun to load for and shoot.
Some of those were done in England as getting a licence for a smoothbore shotgun is far easier than for a rifled firearm.
I had one a few years ago, as I recall it sold in the range you mentioned.
Then there were the Ishapore ones, with a wood insert in place of the rifle magazine.
Value really comes down to condition.
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Please post some photos of it
I hadn't heard of one until a fellow CGN'er shared a cool story...
2 days later saw one in my local shop! Turns out, they are not all "alike"...
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=555053
2 days later saw one in my local shop! Turns out, they are not all "alike"...
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=555053
Will do, i should have it in the mail some time this week!
Tony
Tony
Please post some photos of it
