Opinions on the Px4 Storm

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I've been looking at this for a while. But having never shot one, I need external opinions from the internet.

I'm not a big fan of the usual exposed barrel in the 92 series. But I like the way the barrel in the Px4 rotates rather than rises. Seems like an interesting design and feel.

Who here has handled one? Anyone own one? I'm thinking I want a desert tan with the uselessly cool-looking threaded barrel. Probably in 9mm so I can afford to shoot it all the time.

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I thought the tan model was only available in .45, but it's been a few years since I researched them. My opinion... If you lived in the States and could pick one up for $500 it would not be a complete waste of money if you were a collector and wanted one. As for paying $1000 or whatever crazy price is on them these days don't. They are cheap. They will break. You can't even admire the workmanship.
Buy a glock, m&p or if you really want to part with a grand buy an hk.
 
The px4 storm 9mm is only in black, the desert tan color model was built only in the 45 acp with a threaded barrel when beretta tried for the Joint Combat Pistol for the us army. If you want one at a great price Al Flaherty's a sponsor at the top of the page, has them for 750$. Can't beat that price.
 
BlackWatch said:
As for paying $1000 or whatever crazy price is on them these days don't. They are cheap. They will break. You can't even admire the workmanship.
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Care to elaborate??

I have been enjoying mine ever since I bought one...and still admiring the top notch quality and workmanship... not to mention all the excellent reviews all over the net...
 
A friend of mine has one and so I shoot it every once in awhile. It seems to work fine but I can't shoot it worth crap. I guess it is just me. They don't interest me much. Just my two cents worth.

Graydog
 
I used to want one, but I rented one from the range one day. A fine shooter, trigger is a little long in the pull (even in SA) for my liking. I compared it to a Sig P226, which I liked better. Not a bad gun, but it's no longer at the top of my list especially at it's current price, in my opinion.
 
sigarms226 said:
Well most shops around here sell the Glocks and the PX4 at around the same price. Frontier has them on for $750 last time I checked.
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I paid $1000 for my model D three years ago, even at $750 that's too much. I paid $619 + tax for my M&P and $504 for a Glock 17 + tax both new. Noth better guns.
 
Jackspade said:
Care to elaborate??

I have been enjoying mine ever since I bought one...and still admiring the top notch quality and workmanship... not to mention all the excellent reviews all over the net...
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I haven't heard of any excellent reviews on CGN by owners. I have seen a lot of problems with these... one of mine would allow the firing pin to strike the primer every time I loaded the pistol. Other than that I have seen front sights fall off, but plates fall off when reloading sending 17 rounds on the deck and so on. Workmanship... the trigger is terrible. Feels like it's going to snap off, too long off a travel distance. poor fit and finish, un-filed metal bits. Terrible "fisher-price" feeling grip. I could go on.
I'm not sure what other pistols you have owned but compare this to a HK P30 and it's like a Cavalier to a Cadillac.
 
Canuck44 said:
Makes you wonder how it got picked in the first place, doesn't it?

Take Care

Bob
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The M&P was supposed to win, rumor is the RCMP were going to use cbsa as a test run in anticipation of their switch over to the M&P.
M&P failed the drop test, mag spit out due to a higher mag release button. PX4 won by default.
 
BlackWatch said:
The M&P was supposed to win, rumor is the RCMP were going to use cbsa as a test run in anticipation of their switch over to the M&P.
M&P failed the drop test, mag spit out due to a higher mag release button. PX4 won by default.
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If that is indeed true then then somebody in the selection process ought to reflect on his/her/their decision. The evidence of how stupid the decision was might be found in the number of agencies worldwide who have selected the M&P over the past five years vs how many have selected the PX4.

Take Care

Bob
 
I've never had a problem with any of the ones I've shot and I have put a lot of rounds through them. That being said they are way overpriced in Canada. I own both a Px4 and a M&P and would say that the M&P is both a better pistol and a better bargain.
 
Shoot. A buddy of mine just bought an M&P after watching every one of the magpul videos. I might have to drink the kool-aid and follow suit.

Thanks for the advice guys! I wonder if they've done anything to improve/fix the Px4 in the last few productions? I picked up their little coil bound "Px4 is just too awesome" booklet at shot show, and of course reading that thing makes it seem like the best gun ever.

Maybe I'll just call it a day and buy the OD glock on sale at Wholesale Sports
 
BlackWatch said:
I haven't heard of any excellent reviews on CGN by owners. I have seen a lot of problems with these... one of mine would allow the firing pin to strike the primer every time I loaded the pistol. Other than that I have seen front sights fall off, but plates fall off when reloading sending 17 rounds on the deck and so on. Workmanship... the trigger is terrible. Feels like it's going to snap off, too long off a travel distance. poor fit and finish, un-filed metal bits. Terrible "fisher-price" feeling grip. I could go on.
I'm not sure what other pistols you have owned but compare this to a HK P30 and it's like a Cavalier to a Cadillac.
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I also have a H&K p2000, Glock 23 and 92fs.... The Px4 is just as excellent as the H&K for fit and finish, way better than the Glock for sure... The built quality is top notch and shooting it is as smooth as the H&K and actually smoother than the 92fs... Never mind the Glock 23.

Haven't had any of the problems you have described, except for the double action trigger pull which is a bit harsh I admit, but so is the 92fs and several other double action pistols...

So far I have shot around 700 rounds through her with zero issues...

I love it....
 
misanthropist said:
700 rounds is a warmup lap at the parking lot. Put 7000 rounds through it and you will have a better sense of the gun.

Fit and finish is meaningless. Build quality can't be assessed just by looking at a pistol, or by shooting it a few times.
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700 rounds may be a warm up yes, but still a very good indication on how a gun performs in your hands.... As for reliability and durability I am going by the reviews I have read and the fact that it is still a beretta at the end of the day.

Fit and finish is not meaningless, it is an indication on how the pistol was built..

Also 700 rounds is not "few rounds" by any means... Build quality can be felt and seen by handling the gun, shooting, it and so forth..

If you are waiting to see how a gun endures after 20,000 rounds and only then asses the build quality and durability, then I am at a loss cause it might take me a while....
 
I'm not waiting...I'm well aware of what they do after 20,000 rounds.

700 rounds definitely "a few". For me that's what I would describe as "function testing". Does it actually run? Okay, yes, it feeds, fires, and extracts. 1000 is the minimum number of rounds I use to determine if a gun is operating normally.

To actually evaluate a design, I would say a few tens of thousands is about right. That is exactly why I don't do evaluative testing myself...I stay in touch with people doing institutional testing for big LE and military organizations, because they do see tens of thousands of rounds through guns, and know what happens when the gun gets some wear on it.

There's build quality and there's build quality...there's "we didn't totally #### up the machining" which you can see right off the bat. True build quality is something you learn down the road...when the gun has 50,000 rounds and still works. Or doesn't.
 
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