What's it worth?
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Depends how old. One on a 12ga frame ?? Can you fit a quarter through the ring on the barrel ??
Also plain or VR and what choke all makes a big difference on price
Need more info. I'm assuming its a fixed choke & plain bbl? if so what choke? Modified is an easier sell than full IMO. Also, remington built their 20s on a 12 gauge frame for a time, this would lead to a heavier, less desirable gun. But $300-400 sounds about right in VG condition
EDIT:3macs beat me, that'll teach me not to have multiple threads open at once.
EDIT:3macs beat me, that'll teach me not to have multiple threads open at once.
HA not very often this old dog beats anything any more
Yes the old 12ga frame ones the barrel is worth as much as the gun if looking for one but in little demand
I haven't seen the gun yet, so can not comment anymore on condition, etc. I didn't know about the early ones on a 12 gauge frame.
Ring on the barrel? is that the surest way of determining the frame size? In other words, the size where the barrel goes through the ring, if it is larger than the diameter of a quarter, it is a 12 g frame?
I wonder what year they quit making them on a 12 gauge frame?
Thanks for the info.
Ring on the barrel? is that the surest way of determining the frame size? In other words, the size where the barrel goes through the ring, if it is larger than the diameter of a quarter, it is a 12 g frame?
I wonder what year they quit making them on a 12 gauge frame?
Thanks for the info.
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I bought an older Wingmaster 16 gauge choked modified off here for 180$ last year. I'd say 250$ would be a good price. Full choke is a deal breaker on a 20.
All 20ga on the small frame will say lightweight on the frame no mistaking it for the 12ga frame small frame began sometime around 1974 some were only 2 3/4'' and some were with a 3'' cham. fixed choke at that time all had vent ribs. nice handling gun. they bring $350-$450 .
Thanks again, guys.
Just a word on the choke in a 20, though. My favourite pheasant gun was my good quality 20 side by side, full and modified. Only if they got up close would I use the modified. At longer ranges the little 20 full choke was deadly.
Just a word on the choke in a 20, though. My favourite pheasant gun was my good quality 20 side by side, full and modified. Only if they got up close would I use the modified. At longer ranges the little 20 full choke was deadly.
Yes the ring on the barrel that slides over the mag tube is the only true way, off the top of my head a lighweight will have say a 3/4 bore and I know a 12ga frame will let a quarter pass through. They stopped making the 20ga on the 12ga frame in 1971or72.
That is when (1972) they officially introduced the 20ga lightweight with that stamped on the side of the receiver. However in 1969 when they came out with the 28 and 410 in lightweight frames they also made some 20ga ones in skeet and deer models which were not stamped lightweight.
I have one of those and they are the ones that screw you up. So you have stamped and unstamped 20ga light weight guns. That is why I go with the ring. If it is on a 12ga frame the barrel is worth more than the gun if someone is looking for it. take care
This is mine and it isn't for sale but in this condition it is worth about $500 +
The English style stock isn't that popular with everyone but the light weight is...
A 20 gauge lightweight with choke tubes in a 21 inch barrel... almost new condition...
The receiver width of a LW is 1 and 3/16".
The English style stock isn't that popular with everyone but the light weight is...
A 20 gauge lightweight with choke tubes in a 21 inch barrel... almost new condition...
The receiver width of a LW is 1 and 3/16".
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Sorry guys, a BIG let down. After this I won't comment on a gun until I have seen it.
The 870 turned out to be a Remington Model 19, 20 gauge full choke, plain barrel.
A neat little, light weight gun, but no 870.
Guntech, maybe you would give your take on it.
The 870 turned out to be a Remington Model 19, 20 gauge full choke, plain barrel.
A neat little, light weight gun, but no 870.
Guntech, maybe you would give your take on it.
You sound disappointed are you sure it is not a model 17 or model 29. I cannot recall a remington model 19 If it is a 17 it is worth more than an old 20ga wingmaster pending the grade and to the right person.
They are like superx1's there is a cult following for them just have to hit the right guy. This is the father of the ithaca model 37 but the parts will not interchenge but they say just as smooth and nice to handle as a ithaca. Look who designed it enough said
Book value $250-475
The model 17 Description: Pump action, hammerless, underloading, tubular-magazine, bottom-ejecting, takedown shotgun
Introduction Year: 1921
Year Discontinued: 1933
Total Production: Approximately 73,000
Designer/Inventor: John Browning, John Pedersen
Action Type: Pump action
Caliber/Gauge: 20 gauge only
Serial Number Blocks: 0,000 � 73,000
Grades Offered: 17A � Standard Grade
17B � Special Grade
17D � Tournament Grade
17E � Expert Grade
17F � Premier Grade
17R � Riot Grade
17P � Police Grade
