SIG AR's (M400)

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SIGM400 WELD features a 14.5” barrel, with the same flash suppressor as the classic Swiss Arms SG 550-series rifles permanently pinned and welded for an overall 16.1” barrel.

THE SIG M400 SERIES TACTICAL RIFLE, designed for use in law enforcement, military operations, or the sporting field as well as competitive shooting. The SIG M400 is a true AR platform tactical rifle. Provides unparalleled accuracy, with a 16’ chrome-lined and phosphate coated barrel that provides maximum durability and corrosion resistance. A 7075- T6 aircraft grade aluminum forged lower receiver adds to the durability and reliability.

Features
- Direct impingement gas operating system with rotating locking bolt
- 5.56 x 45 mm NATO Chrome-lined barrels with phosphate finish
- Accepts most M16 type magazines
- SIG550 series 1.5" flash supressor
- Fixed front sight
- Detachable carry handle M16A2 type rear sight

MSRP: $1120.00

http://w w w.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/m400-weld.aspx

Questar, over to you! :)
 
Issue tends to be Export Permits... our past attempts to get approval of export permit for SIG AR style rifles has met with little success. Without the approved Export Permit we can't bring them in.
 
Questar said:
Issue tends to be Export Permits... our past attempts to get approval of export permit for SIG AR style rifles has met with little success. Without the approved Export Permit we can't bring them in.
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Does that have anything to do with the fact that FN sports is the importer for Sig in canada?
Or does it not matter?
Dont really know how that works.
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badboybeeson said:
Does that have anything to do with the fact that FN sports is the importer for Sig in canada?
Or does it not matter?
Dont really know how that works.
bbb
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FN Sports is only 1 of several importers of SIG products to Canada... there are several others including Questar ;) ... all done with SIG's knowledge and support.

As for Export Permits, those are processed by the US State Department who controls exports of all ITAR related items (everything from Fighter Planes to Missile Systems to Computer Software to Weapon Systems including most small arms, parts and accessories).

Pretty much any firearm (including parts thereof and accessories thereto) require a US Export Permit from DDTC to be legally removed from the US... one of the few exceptions to this are Sporting Shotguns with a barrel length over 18"... and those require an export permit from US Commerce Department instead.

We get export permits for Glock pistols all the time, even though we are NOT an authorized Glock dealer and Glock has made considerable effort to stop us from selling their pistols here in Canada. The relationship between the manufacturer and the Canadian importer has nothing to do with the approval process for export permits... State Department couldn't care less.

State Department's issue in this particular case appears to be their desire to control the export of certain features of AR style rifles, specifically 5.56NATO marked barrels, threaded barrels, flash hiders, folding/collapsible stocks.

Having said that, the State Department also uses their power to "influence" weapons manufacturers to tow the line on both domestic and foreign US policy... so they will sometimes place an embargo on a manufacturer and their products to either discourage them from doing something that the US administration doesn't like or to encourage them to do something that the US administration wants done. It's a tool they use for political ends (both foreign and domestic).
 
alpha niner said:
But by placing all these embargos and restrictions, aren't they just hurting their own economy...Im sure there are tons of international buyers out there ALL COMBINED can really put in a lot of money into their current 'situation', create jobs and etc etc...
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Uh.. the problem with your statement is that it is far too rational. This is gun control we're talking about, and gun control is mostly about control. It has little if anything to do with money.
 
Small arms trade at the "commercial/retail" level is so miniscule as it relates to the big picture that it really doesn't play a factor... and it's an easy way for the US administration (President) to send messages to foreign governments.

Right now it's interesting just how fast and straight forward it is for our US office to get export permits to some countries (Australia for example) while other countries are getting harder and harder to get approvals for, including countries you wouldn't expect (Germany, England and much of Europe). It seems the US is unhappy that these European countries have little control on what is being "re-exported" from their borders and so the US is being more and more restrictive on what they will allow to be exported to them in the first place. I believe that is part of what's been happening here in Canada the past few years.

Way too many Canadian end-users ignore the fact that firearms and related items that are exported from the US are NOT PERMITTED to be re-exported out of Canada without specific permission from US State Department. Many Canadians feel that once they've bought the items they can do whatever they want with them, including taking or sending them overseas. The fact is that our government is supposed to restrict those re-exports and the US relies on the Canadian governments assurances (in the IIC's) that they will enforce this... but in recent years this is becoming more and more a problem and the US knows it.

There was a case recently (I can't give the details) where a group of people here in Canada was buying up AR parts from Canadian retailers and taking/shipping those parts overseas to "terrorist groups" in several countries that are specifically under arms-embargos. This type of thing is a huge potential problem for all of "us" here in Canada.

If the US can't stop Canadians from re-exporting items and having them show up in foreign hot-spots, and if the Canadian government can't control it, then the US will seek to control it by not allowing the export to Canada in the first place. That's part of why you see more and more restrictions on US firearm export permits to Canada.
 
alpha niner said:
But by placing all these embargos and restrictions, aren't they just hurting their own economy...Im sure there are tons of international buyers out there ALL COMBINED can really put in a lot of money into their current 'situation', create jobs and etc etc...
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You over-estimate the value of the retail firearms business being affected by their policy decisions... you also look at this solely from your perspective as a Canadian sport shooter.

Would you suggest that the US government allow US companies to sell guns to the "enemies" that US troops are fighting overseas right now? Most people understand that this just would not make a lot of sense (regardless of how much the "economy" might benefit from such sales... the net result is a loss).

Having said that, if the US allows sales of items (firearms and repair/replacement parts and ammunition, etc.) to countries that then allow those same items to be re-exported to the very enemies the US is fighting overseas then that is the exact same result... supplying weapons and parts and supplies to their enemies.

Case in point... a few years ago the US got "upset" with Steyr-Mannlicher because they believed the company sold 50 cal. firearms to the Iran (against their wishes) and that those weapons later turned up in Iraq being used against US troops. To "influence" Steyr future decisions the US State Department placed an embargo on ALL products made by Steyr and all of it's partner companies, subsiduaries, etc.. For a number of years it was impossible to legally import or export ANY Steyr products into or out of the US... new or old.

At the time we were doing an export for a gentleman here in Canada... he had purchased a World War II firearm that had been made by a company related to Steyr and because of the embargo the US State Department refused to approve the export permit of the WWII era firearm... the permit was DENIED and the reason given was outright stated to be the embargo against all Steyr and related products.

This embargo eventually ended and there now appears to be some question as to whether the Steyr weapons ever actually ended up in Iraq... but not before it hurt Steyr financially and it shows just how sensitive the US is to such concerns.

Besides... the firearms industry in the US is booming and domestic demand is growing continuously. Export restrictions have very little effect on any of that.
 
The funny part is that all of the restrictions just make it easier for china to fill the overseas market. As I mentioned at SHOT to many dealers, ITAR is the best thing the US did for China.
 
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