Value my AR please :)

misanthropist said:
Others no doubt feel differently, but to me the 14.5 is worth less than the 16.

But since you have offers on the table, that's moot.
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misanthropist said:
Unfortunately I find shotguns to be basically useless to me.
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Agreed on both accounts. 16" barrels are optimal, especially when coupled with midlength gas. Shotguns are inferior to rifles in all lengths.

As for value of an Armalite 14.5. I say about $1200. Lots of new options for similar money and the 14.5 novelty isn't worth extra cash.

TDC
 
USP said:
Its a nice rifle. But there are alot of reasons why its price is effected by it being an Armalite. For some the name isnt well known so that can be a minor negative. For others who know the brand well, thier past run (not the newer stuff) had a reputation for awhile of having poor quality control, that is also a minor negative. The twist rate compared to other options is typically considered old fashioned- not that theres anything wrong with it.
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I actually consider the Armalite AR rifles to be overlooked. The new ones have excellent fit/finish on them (I seem to recall that the Aero forgings are the same). Compared to my LMT and Stag the Armalite fit/finish is right in there. The Armalite also has the dry lube finish in the upper like my LMT. The staking on mine looks to be right and is the same as my LMT and Stag. Pretty good rifle. On a side note my Armalite DND AR10 is on my never sell list.

As for the twist rate. I see a lot of people going for the 1:7 twist. There's nothing wrong with that, but as I recall the reason for going to this twist rate was to stabilize the 62 grain ammo in extreme cold, not to shoot heavier ammo which out of short barrels loses a lot of steam anyways. Having done some shooting in -30 and refused to leave the house when it was much colder, I can tell you that for my personal use I don't enjoy shooting in that temperature. As for police use which like the military could very well be in extreme cold. I've had to work in sub -50 temperatures so it's definitely a reality.

Given the choice I'd go with 1:7 but it does generally mean more expensive and harder to get ammo if you want the most accuracy. Unless of course you get lucky. Which could happen.

Part of the problem with the AR market is that we have had some much access to high end guns and recently low end guns, that I believe the guns in the middle from suppliers such as Armalite have had thier prices knocked down abit to reflect the supply of ARs overall.
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Absolutely.

You would get a good price for it from say somebody who wants an Armalite. Otherwise there is nothing particularily unique about the gun that would warrant a premium price.
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The lowers on these like the LMT are 5.56mm marked. If the barrel is also nato marked in 14.5" then it is worth a premium. The Armalite does have some military/police sales. The AR10 was used by Canadian spotters in Afghanistan, the AR15 is in use with the Illinois State police. But yes it doesn't have the same sort of "reputation" as the LMT and others. Personally while I really like mine, it is my lower level most basic AR15 in my safe. I bought mine as a police carbine and wanted to keep it simple. For that very reason I actually prefer the 1:9 twist. I plan on shooting 55 grain ammo out of it and keep it cheap.

I personally would keep it, but thats just me.

Perhaps list it at $1400 and see if it moves.
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X2, especially in the current market. I would also hold onto it and not sell at this time. Plus I happen to like Armalite :D and I consider these rifles as better than their internet street cred would leave you to believe.
 
Wrong Way said:
Also the fact that the preban 14" M15A4 only came with a government profile barrel might be an indicator ;)
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I've quoted you just so that I don't upset you further. From your photos it would appear that you have a government type profile but you already knew that. Thanks for humouring me and posting them.

Is it a fact? I guess that it's supposed to be widespread general knowledge is it? Please excuse my noob ignorance when it comes to all things Armalite.

Here's a fact for you. Armalite never made any preban barrels, in fact Armalite didn't exist until 1995, one year after the AWB came into effect.
 
Leg said:
I've quoted you just so that I don't upset you further. From your photos it would appear that you have a government type profile but you already knew that. Thanks for humouring me and posting them.

Is it a fact? I guess that it's supposed to be widespread general knowledge is it? Please excuse my noob ignorance when it comes to all things Armalite.

Here's a fact for you. Armalite never made any preban barrels, in fact Armalite didn't exist until 1995, one year after the AWB came into effect.
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Except that we weren't talking about the AWB.....we were talking about the export ban ;)
 
Great post, very informative :)

Thanks Epoxy

Epoxy7 said:
I actually consider the Armalite AR rifles to be overlooked. The new ones have excellent fit/finish on them (I seem to recall that the Aero forgings are the same). Compared to my LMT and Stag the Armalite fit/finish is right in there. The Armalite also has the dry lube finish in the upper like my LMT. The staking on mine looks to be right and is the same as my LMT and Stag. Pretty good rifle. On a side note my Armalite DND AR10 is on my never sell list.

As for the twist rate. I see a lot of people going for the 1:7 twist. There's nothing wrong with that, but as I recall the reason for going to this twist rate was to stabilize the 62 grain ammo in extreme cold, not to shoot heavier ammo which out of short barrels loses a lot of steam anyways. Having done some shooting in -30 and refused to leave the house when it was much colder, I can tell you that for my personal use I don't enjoy shooting in that temperature. As for police use which like the military could very well be in extreme cold. I've had to work in sub -50 temperatures so it's definitely a reality.

Given the choice I'd go with 1:7 but it does generally mean more expensive and harder to get ammo if you want the most accuracy. Unless of course you get lucky. Which could happen.



Absolutely.



The lowers on these like the LMT are 5.56mm marked. If the barrel is also nato marked in 14.5" then it is worth a premium. The Armalite does have some military/police sales. The AR10 was used by Canadian spotters in Afghanistan, the AR15 is in use with the Illinois State police. But yes it doesn't have the same sort of "reputation" as the LMT and others. Personally while I really like mine, it is my lower level most basic AR15 in my safe. I bought mine as a police carbine and wanted to keep it simple. For that very reason I actually prefer the 1:9 twist. I plan on shooting 55 grain ammo out of it and keep it cheap.



X2, especially in the current market. I would also hold onto it and not sell at this time. Plus I happen to like Armalite :D and I consider these rifles as better than their internet street cred would leave you to believe.
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"preban" in the context of US guns normally refers to the AWB.

If you use the term to mean something else you should probably denote that.

Otherwise it's a bit like saying, "this spear is from pre-industrial Iceland", meaning the time before the industrial music genre took off. That is not what that expression really means.
 
1200$

Its an Armalite, not an LMT etc.. who cares if their 14.5" is not available? Lots of better brands out there for the same price as you are considering taking.. And they would be new.
 
"Here's a fact for you. Armalite never made any preban barrels, in fact Armalite didn't exist until 1995, one year after the AWB came into effect"
By a previous poster

ArmaLite was formally incorporated as a subdivision of Fairchild on October 1, 1954. By the 1970s, ArmaLite had essentially stopped all new rifle development, and the company effectively ceased operations. In 1983 ArmaLite was sold to Elisco Tool Manufacturing Company, of the Philippines. After passing through a series of owners, the ArmaLite brand name and rampant lion logo was sold in 1996 to Mark Westrom, a former U.S. Army Ordnance officer and inventor of a 7.62 NATO sniper rifle based on the design concepts of Eugene Stoner.
 
firemedic382 said:
"Here's a fact for you. Armalite never made any preban barrels, in fact Armalite didn't exist until 1995, one year after the AWB came into effect"
By a previous poster

ArmaLite was formally incorporated as a subdivision of Fairchild on October 1, 1954. By the 1970s, ArmaLite had essentially stopped all new rifle development, and the company effectively ceased operations. In 1983 ArmaLite was sold to Elisco Tool Manufacturing Company, of the Philippines. After passing through a series of owners, the ArmaLite brand name and rampant lion logo was sold in 1996 to Mark Westrom, a former U.S. Army Ordnance officer and inventor of a 7.62 NATO sniper rifle based on the design concepts of Eugene Stoner.
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Ok, ok, you got me. I was referring to Armalite in its current form. They still never made any preban barrels, that would be the AWB type preban
 
Nice Thread WW, Cool little rifle. Somewhere in there I asked a bout it being an m15 instead of an AR15 and someone chimed in that it was older. It is deeply humorous that this has turned into somewhat of a 'my uncle can kick your uncles ass' thread but such is the way of the internet. Personally i'd keep it or try and sell it as a collectible as its not a generic AR, but then again my xray vision cant see under your hand guards.

WrongWay; did you ever see the thread where the UncleWalther posted pictures of his non restricted Swiss Arms Target Rifle and its approximate value? Boy that was a 'My Uncle can Kick your Uncle's Ass' thread if I ever read one...LOL.
 
I have the same rifle just with the thick barrel all the way to the muzzle. Any difference in value? Bought it last year.
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Craig0ry said:
I have the same rifle just with the thick barrel all the way to the muzzle. Any difference in value? Bought it last year for 1100
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Yes. The one you bought was the export compliant version. The regular rifles are worth more, especially if the difference is obvious such as barrel profile and not just the markings. One of the advantages with the LMT MRP for buying the export compliant version is that the barrel profiles are the same. Other than needing to get it threaded and a flash hider, you can't tell the difference. Not so with the Smith & Wesson M&P, Armalite etc. The export barrel profile may even shoot better. But they are considered less valuable.
 
I have 4 14" step cut A2 armalites which i bought years ago from wolverine supplies, never used them. one day decided to sell a couple and inquired like you on CGN about how much i could sell them for... i was told $600. now reading this thread im VERY glad i kept the rifles and never sold them. the reasoning they told me $600 was because the rifles all had the a2 style receiver (fixed handle), not sure if that really makes a difference, not hard to swap receivers...

1000-1500 sounds fair if unused. 1700 sounds really high for a stock armalite.
 
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