Glock kaboom! pics added

DaveC said:
Well, maybe not a total kaboom, but I have a nasty surprise, and not have a cracked frame.

I might as well tell the whole story so I can catch hell for being stupid.

First off, I bought a bunch of handloads from a CGN member who seemed like a pretty good guy, and has done a LOT of reloading. (I'm sure he is a good guy, but mistakes happen)

I've shot about 300 of them with no problems, but yesterday I had a hot one that scared the crap out of me,powder burned the hell out of my hand, and cracked the frame on my Glock 22.

I've been told that most pistols can handle a hot, or even a double charged round without being destroyed, and that the unsupported chamber of the Glock is why they kaboom.

Now, it seems my slide and all the upper components are good, and I have a bunch of mags, holster, etc for it, so really am torn as what to do.

I like the trigger safety of the Glock, but am thinking maybe a metal frame might be better.

I have a buddy with a couple CZ Shadow that loves them. I'd just have to get used to the safety. I'm considering one, or maybe an XD40 or XD9.

So, |I tried to save some money on ammo, and it cost me a pistol. :bangHead:

The lessons that seem to stick the best are always either the painful ones, or the expensive ones, it seems.
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For starters, running any reloads is a dangerous idea with a .40cal gun as they run high pressures. Second, running someone else's reloads is foolish. Third, the "unsupported" chamber in a Glock is no less supported than any other maker's.

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TDC
 
I'd never buy reloads from anyone. Buy factory or roll your own and shoot your own.

You can buy a CCF all metal racegun frame. That will take care of the crack.

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Are you absolutely sure it was a double load? I'm wondering if maybe a lead build up in the barrel caused excess pressure which went BOOM..

Just a thought to consider.
 
Glock 40 cal KABOOM.

Precisely the reason to stick with the Glock 17 9mm. Lower probability of Kaboom, factory ammo is cheap, cost to reload is even cheaper than .40, 9mm brass is cheap, plentiful or free.

Tell me you're not suggesting that metal frames guns don't crack?

TDC
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I saw a 1911 KABOOM that did not damage anything at all. I guess it was just a little kaboom then:D
 
easyrider604 said:
Glock 40 cal KABOOM.

Precisely the reason to stick with the Glock 17 9mm. Lower probability of Kaboom, factory ammo is cheap, cost to reload is even cheaper than .40, 9mm brass is cheap, plentiful or free.



I saw a 1911 KABOOM that did not damage anything at all. I guess it was just a little kaboom then:D
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Both 9mm and .45 are low pressure rounds, whereas .40cal is not.

TDC
 
matt491 said:
Are you absolutely sure it was a double load? I'm wondering if maybe a lead build up in the barrel caused excess pressure which went BOOM..

Just a thought to consider.
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:agree:

Now I double loaded a 357 round once in a Dillon 550b it is rare but can happen mine happened when I was interupted by a family member who asked me to to something for them quickly, when I returned I lost track of where I left off. This is where I went wrong it ended up putting a bulge in the barrel of a S&W 686 & it sounded like a cannon going off, my had hurt for a few days. this was back in 1993 and it has never happened again.
 
There is nothing I can say that will help you cuz you obviously can't read!

It says right in the glock users manual that you cant shoot lead bullets due to the polygonally rifled barrels.

Glocks can handle a double charged load, what they cannot handle is weak brass near the unsupported area of the chamber, this will cause a blow out, but then again so will shooting lead bullets, lead will accumulate in the barrel and cause an over pressure situation.
 
TDC said:
Both 9mm and .45 are low pressure rounds, whereas .40cal is not.

TDC
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The 9mm is a high pressure round, approx 30,000psi, similar to .40 cal.

The 45 acp is a 19K psi cartridge. If double charged....probably closer to 40,000psi?...my guess is as good as anybody's. The 1911 is not designed to handle kaboom level pressures, although I heard that proof tests are done at twice the normal pressure.

Anyway, many believe the G22 kb issue is due to less case support in its chamber.


It says right in the glock users manual that you cant shoot lead bullets due to the polygonally rifled barrels.
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I believe this is a CYB (cover your butt) warning by Glock's lawyers. I have shot a few magazines of lead bullets through my G17. No issues with leading. If you want to shoot lead, try one magazine at a time. Check your bore with a borelight so you clearly see the rifling or the lead fouling.

Read other forums and you will see some Glock shooters who shoot 2-300 rounds of lead bullets through their polygonal barrels and no kaboom or harmfull effects. The key is keeping the bore as clean as possible. If one knows the "limits" of his Glock and understand bullets or reloading them, it should be ok to shoot lead, but if anything bad happens, your SOL.
 
matt491 said:
Are you absolutely sure it was a double load? I'm wondering if maybe a lead build up in the barrel caused excess pressure which went BOOM..

Just a thought to consider.
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I hadn't considered that. It may be difficult to tell for sure though. I am certain that the base of the case blew out real good. :eek:
 
Zeddy said:
There is nothing I can say that will help you cuz you obviously can't read!
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If I could read, would there be something that you could say that would take me back in time to prevent my mistakes? Do you have one of those hot tub time machines?:D

Obviously I f'd up. I'm sharing my experience so that maybe someone else can avoid the same mistakes.
 
:eek:Man! I reload with a Lee Classic Loader cause I'm not a high volume shooter and I like the hands on care it requires to use this type of system and I came as close to a double load as you can, without it actually happening. I was getting tired (first sign that you should call it a night!) and was puzzled when I poured the dipper full of powder it filled right up to the top of my die. Couldn't figure it out until I lifted the die and saw a bullet! I must have poured a charge then dropped a bullet to be seated, then got distracted, and poured another charge on top! YEP that's when I called it a night!
 
Hard to double charge a case if the powder takes up close to half of the case volume... Most people forget that lesson only to be reminded of it sooner or later in a big way.
 
Glock 22 with lead reloads is the exact thing you should not do! Pretty sure the owners manual even says so. There is an essay on it in "glocks in competition". Chalk it up to learning and thank your lucky stars nothing worse then your pride got hurt. I would not swear off any brand of gun based on one incident. They are manufactured items, all have issues and thanks to the modern world, we get to hear about every single one of them!

See what it would cost you to get it back up and running and then go from there..

Very best,

Ian
 
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