reloading for IPDA & IPSC

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I know this some would says to post this in the reloading forum, but my question are more for targeting action shooting.

I used to reload for PPC but that was using lead swc. I have never loaded jacketed rounds. So my questions are what is most common bullet brands, types,
weights used in both sports and sources to buy bullets in 500 & 1000 rounds boxes for action shooting in central Canada.

Now I just bought a new CZ shadow 9mm and will be getting a Glock 9mm or .40 as well I will always be loading for .45acp
 
I like Titegroup for powder...it meters well out of my Dillon.

For my shadow, I am using 3.9 grs with an 124 gr Aim plated bullet right now. For q jacketed bullet like a 124 gr Zero, I bump it up to 4.0 grs.

A lot of guys like the 147 grn bullets...you could probably step ot down to 3.2 or 3.3 grs of titegroup.

Berry's bullets, CamPro's...BDX......are also some other common brands of bullets.
 
I have played around with a lot of different .45acp loads for IPSC. I have had the most consecutive rounds fired without any malfunctions with 230 gr. RN. I am currently using AIM projectiles, but am thinking about switching to barrys, because the QC of the AIM is terrible. Weight varies +- 10 grains and the plating is inconsistent.

AS for powder, i will use Clays for practice, i like it because it fills up the entire case. Unfortunately, i have had a hard time making major PF with clays. For IPSC competition, i use bullseye; 4.9 grains with 230 gr bullets with an OAL of 1.232 gives me a 176 PF when shot out of a 5" barrel.

I have several .45 loads worked out with Clays and Bullseye powder using 185 gr. HP, 200 gr. SWC and TC as well as 230 gr RN. PM me if you would like any more info.
 
In general you are going to want to use round nosed or conical bullets so as to have reliable feeding.

Copper plated bullets are a good idea as they will not lead up your barrel but still can usually be shot indoors at ranges that don't allow jacketed ammo.

I find most people loading 9mm for IPSC that I know are using 124 gr plated. For the .45 most people I know are loading 230 gr plated. The .40 is a bit tricky because the question is whether you plan to download to just make minor and shoot Production or load hotter to make Major and shoot in Standard.
 
Watch your overall for the CZ. It seems to have a shorter chamber or less lead in taper to the rifling. The OAL depends on the bullet nose profile but tends to be on the short side at 1.10 to 1.09 for 124gn rounds for me.

I chamber check using the barrel stripped down from my gun and a dial caliper for the first few then spot check with a dial caliper over the next couple of hundred until I know things are stable. I like to seat until the round just sits in the barrel correctly with no catch at the rifling then go another .005 to .008 shorter just for insurance.

If they fit in my CZ barrels the other 9's I have are fine. Those all have longer chambers or less lead taper to the rifling.
 
For my Shadow I load 124 grain CanadaBDX FMJ bullets over 4.1 grains of Titegroup. As someone mentioned the Shadow does like the bullets seated a bit deeper. I don't remember what length I'm loading to though...

In .40 I was loading titegroup over lead 180's. They were smokey but I had access to cheap bullets.
 
Unless you put the Shadow on a diet it is to heavy to play in IDPA. The Glock 17 would work well IDPA SSP or ESP divisions though.

I have posted how to get your Shadow down to weight on this forum: www.idpa.com

Take Care

Bob
 
I haven't desided yet on buying a .40 cal yet as 9mm would make more sence right now, then I would only have to load 2 different rounds. In the past I used both Clays & bullseye powder & 200gr swc So I'm happy with that. Titegroup I have never used but will look into it.

Which is easier to load & work with, round nosed or conical bullets for 9mm? I have only ever worked with WC, SWC & Crayola tip bullets
 
Brocolt said:
I haven't desided yet on buying a .40 cal yet as 9mm would make more sence right now, then I would only have to load 2 different rounds. In the past I used both Clays & bullseye powder & 200gr swc So I'm happy with that. Titegroup I have never used but will look into it.

Which is easier to load & work with, round nosed or conical bullets for 9mm? I have only ever worked with WC, SWC & Crayola tip bullets
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If you are buying bullets any truncated cone or SWC design works well in most 9MM guns including the Glock. I think powders like HS-6, Unique, Universal Clays and Win 231 would be better powders in the 9MM than either Clays or Bullseye.

Take Care

Bob
 
I have no problem switching powders most of all my reloading has been with the Clays & Bullseye, but would like to find a powder that would work great with both 9mm & .45 acp

I have no experiance working with 9mm bullets or HP & jacketed bullets. My knowledge with Clays & bullseye was from loading for PPC the loads I used always work well in my guns. but that was .38 & .45acp only these loads were slow but very accurate.
 
I don't have any experience loading 9 either, but Canuck44 mentioned win231 may work well. I know it works great in .45 so maybe look into that.
 
I'm not worried about loads right now I'm looking for more info on types of bullets and where to buy them in Canada as well what works in CZ & Glocks for matches & reloading.
 
animalamidon said:
I don't have any experience loading 9 either, but Canuck44 mentioned win231 may work well. I know it works great in .45 so maybe look into that.
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I have a spreadsheet of loads I have shot over a F1 Chrony. PM me your email address and I can send it to you. All loads are within Manua; specs. It may help you to get started.

Take Care

Bob
 
Vihta vuori N320 works in 9, 40 and 45acp

Brocolt said:
I have no problem switching powders most of all my reloading has been with the Clays & Bullseye, but would like to find a powder that would work great with both 9mm & .45 acp

I have no experiance working with 9mm bullets or HP & jacketed bullets. My knowledge with Clays & bullseye was from loading for PPC the loads I used always work well in my guns. but that was .38 & .45acp only these loads were slow but very accurate.
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Hi there ..

Just want to chime in about using Vihta vuori N320 for 9mm, .40 S&W as well as .45 ACP.. I also use it for my 38 sp loads in my 686. It is more expensive than titegroup.. but nice and clean burning.

9mm
147 grain lead cast RN and 3.1 grains N320 OAL 1.135 gives PF of 130 out of my Tanfoglio Match.

40 S&W
180 grain Berry with 4.8 grains N320 OAL 1.200 gives a PF of 174 in my Tanfoglio Limited Custom.

.45 ACP
200 grain Frontier TC with 5.5 g N320 OAL 1.250 gives a PF of 167 (IDPA) in my Caspian 1911

The nice thing about these loads is they are nice and soft shooting compared to something like IMR SR4756...

RDG
 
9mm - Clays and Berry's in 124gr weight here. Shooting Shadow and CZ 75B SA - OAL 1.12", 3.6gr of powder. Fed SPPs.

Berry's are very consistent in shape, weight and so on. I shot over 20K of them and don't see myself switching to others for time being.

Clays is a flake powder and flakes are quite large, make sure your powder measure can throw the charge right.
 
CeeZer said:
9mm - Clays and Berry's in 124gr weight here. Shooting Shadow and CZ 75B SA - OAL 1.12", 3.6gr of powder. Fed SPPs.

Berry's are very consistent in shape, weight and so on. I shot over 20K of them and don't see myself switching to others for time being.

Clays is a flake powder and flakes are quite large, make sure your powder measure can throw the charge right.
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No problem in the Dillon powder measure.

Take Care

Bob
 
My own experience with Bullseye suggests that it's highly affected by temperature. 9mm rounds loaded using some very old Bullseye barely dribbled the cases out over the back of my hand and led to all manner of stovepipes and double feeds. Take the same rounds indoors, allow to warm up to room temp and they are flying a good 18 inches out in a healthy arc.

As a result I'm going to switch to Tightgroup like so many others for my semi auto loading. The 2.5 to 3 lbs of bullseye I have left will be reserved for .38Spl loading where the revolver doesn't care.
 
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