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I have to buy a restricted real soon for att reasons.

I was looking at the m&p9. It's along the lines of what i'm looking for. I then came across the ruger sr9. The price tag is prettier. I cant find anyone who has it.

Do you guys have any suggestions? Vendors? Im cheap but I dont want chinese..

Credit card in hand.
 
SR9 is a really good gun with a great price but I do think the M&P is worth the small premium.

I had a SR9, still have an M&P.

Look at Glocks also (another step up:stirthepot2:)
 
Vario said:
Im left handed. Is the holster in the mp9 range kit reversible?
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No, but don't let that stop you from buying a range kit. The M&P in the range kit will have the desired CAUTION: CAPABLE OF FIRING WITH MAGAZINE REMOVED marking on the right side of the slide that is typical of an M&P that you'd want. Many M&P pistols (and the Ruger SR9) do not have this marking and are instead equipped with a magazine disconnect that - if you buy one - will piss you off forever.

That holster is only the frosting on the cake; don't focus on the frosting when what matters is the cake. Buy the M&P range kit, or an M&P9JG, or another M&P model that has CAUTION: CAPABLE OF FIRING WITH MAGAZINE REMOVED on the right side of the slide, and then just buy yourself a left-handed holster from somewhere else.
 
swampdog said:
Why is that?
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Yes, I'm curious, too. Does your CFO threaten to revoke your ATT if you are "between guns" for too long? Which province?

It would seem a bit high-handed if it is so, but from another perspective, perhaps we should encourage CFOs who coerce us into owning restricted guns.
 
Pay a little more and get a Sig. You won't need anything else.

If possible, go to the store, hold a bunch, see what fits the best. Also, at the gun club, see if you can shoot other members guns. Makes decisions much easier.
 
I'm in Ontario

The ATT reason is that I just joined a range, EOHC, they sent in the paperwork for the ATT for me. I don't own a restricted at the moment and they say that the ATT will be declined. That I need to own a restricted to be issued an ATT to transport it.

I want to buy one before this ATT paperwork gets processed.


Is this a big pile of BS?

I don't own a restricted or ever owned one. I wasn't in a hurry and wanted to own one just to let it sit in the safe, I figured I would wait for my ATT to come in first.
I do own a bunch of NR though.
 
guns hold resale value very good, so get which ever you're leaning towards and can always sell and buy the other, if you're not liking it after shooting it for a while.. you'll lose a few bucks (if you dont like it) but small cost for trial and error...
never shot the 2 guns you mention, but many have said good things about the M&P...
 
Vario said:
I'm in Ontario

The ATT reason is that I just joined a range, EOHC, they sent in the paperwork for the ATT for me. I don't own a restricted at the moment and they say that the ATT will be declined. That I need to own a restricted to be issued an ATT to transport it.

I want to buy one before this ATT paperwork gets processed.


Is this a big pile of BS?

I don't own a restricted or ever owned one. I wasn't in a hurry and wanted to own one just to let it sit in the safe, I figured I would wait for my ATT to come in first.
I do own a bunch of NR though.
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I understand now.

It's not b.s. They can't issue an Authority To Transport if there isn't anything to transport. I can't remember it being a great deal of trouble to submit the application for an ATT, but I wouldn't be surprised if your CFO makes you jump through more hoops in Ontario.
 
Vario said:
I'm in Ontario

The ATT reason is that I just joined a range, EOHC, they sent in the paperwork for the ATT for me. I don't own a restricted at the moment and they say that the ATT will be declined. That I need to own a restricted to be issued an ATT to transport it.

I want to buy one before this ATT paperwork gets processed.


Is this a big pile of BS?

I don't own a restricted or ever owned one. I wasn't in a hurry and wanted to own one just to let it sit in the safe, I figured I would wait for my ATT to come in first.
I do own a bunch of NR though.
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I'm not familiar with the laws in Ontario, but here is an easy way to have a restricted. Have a look at T.E.C. Tradex banner above, and look for a pistol frame. Even a bare bones frame is still considered a restricted.

I went to see if I could find the frames so I could give you a link, but I can't find any frames. Maybe someone else has an idea on the frames.
 
I have an SR9 stainless I got from Ellwood Epps for $478. Great gun! Also have an M&P 40 range kit which includes 3 mags, mag and pistol holster, and a Uplula mag loader ( great piece!) for $650 from Al Flaherty's in Toronto, great guys there, also a great gun. You'll be happy with either one.
 
This whole thing sounds odd. As already noted, an ATT is issued for a specific pistol. For ordinary gun owners (not dealers), there is no blanket ATT that covers all guns that one might own. Each time one buys a new gun, the CFO issues a new or updated ATT.

Before a gun can be transferred to the new owner, the new owner needs to tell the CFO which range they belong to, but that usually is done verbally, on the phone. If the CFO wants proof of your range membership, you might be able to fax them a copy of the membership paper when you actually buy a gun. Or you might have to ask your range to fax confirmation to the CFO if the confirmation letter they are sending now is no longer available.

At least here in the west, obtaining an ATT may take only minutes from the time one phones in until it arrives by FAX or email. Unless Ontario has its own rules that are very different from out here, someone may have given you bad information. If in doubt, call the CFO. They are very helpful.
 
Firearms are provincial. Each province is a kingdom, each CFO a King (or Queen, as the case may be).
 
TheTooner said:
I understand now.

It's not b.s. They can't issue an Authority To Transport if there isn't anything to transport. I can't remember it being a great deal of trouble to submit the application for an ATT, but I wouldn't be surprised if your CFO makes you jump through more hoops in Ontario.
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They can, but they won't. It's the opposite in BC, you have to have a long term ATT before they'll reg a restricted to you.
 
swampdog said:
This whole thing sounds odd. As already noted, an ATT is issued for a specific pistol. For ordinary gun owners (not dealers), there is no blanket ATT that covers all guns that one might own. Each time one buys a new gun, the CFO issues a new or updated ATT.

Before a gun can be transferred to the new owner, the new owner needs to tell the CFO which range they belong to, but that usually is done verbally, on the phone. If the CFO wants proof of your range membership, you might be able to fax them a copy of the membership paper when you actually buy a gun. Or you might have to ask your range to fax confirmation to the CFO if the confirmation letter they are sending now is no longer available.

At least here in the west, obtaining an ATT may take only minutes from the time one phones in until it arrives by FAX or email. Unless Ontario has its own rules that are very different from out here, someone may have given you bad information. If in doubt, call the CFO. They are very helpful.
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Not quite - BC LTATT's cover any restricted (or prohibited) to and from any range/gunsmith/border if you have a Form6 in BC and the Yukon -some cover as far east as Manitoba.
 
Forget the Glocks, M&P, SR9 and other nonsense. You OBVIOUSLY need a Pietta 1860 cap and ball black powder gun..... :D

NEVER buy any gun you have not personlly held for long enough to know it if fits your hands. And preferably shot a few mags or cylinders worth of ammo with it to see how you like it. Nothing ANY of us tell you or that you read about the Ruger or any other gun will replace the direct first hand experience.

I was going to type that buying a gun just because someone on the internet says it's the best ranks up there with accepting a dare to step off a cliff. But that would imply a measure of idiocy on the part of the daree or the person asking which gun to buy.

Surely as an RPAL holder there's some sort of gun you've shot before and liked which you would not mind owning? Get one of those. At least make this "forced" purchase work for you instead of just jumping at something.
 
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