Best survival/camping .22?

cdncowboy said:
I think I am leaning towards the Marlin Papoose... I like the idea of the AR-7 in that everything fits into the stock but it seems, in the reviews anyways, that the Papoose is a better quality gun with fewer functional issues.

Those with the Papoose... how is the accuracy at 100 yards with the short barrel? Most groundhogs are over 100 yards...
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Groundhogs? I thought this was a survival/camping gun thread:p barrel length has very little to do with accuracy, but how steady you can rest it sure does. I rest my Papoose just ahead of the mag and driv deep into the shoulder and it feel like a full size rifle.
It groups the same as my marlin model 60, which is to say about usually 1.5", in poor conditions about 2" at 100m. About as good as any quality semi. More accurate than any 10/22 or AR-7 I've seen.

This is what my Papoose does with a 4x scope at 50m... Double this for 100m the inside square is 1"
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My vote would be the Norinco Backpacker, or Stevens shorty. Haven't shot a take-down .22lr, so I'm basing this on guns I've tried, and that I know shoot well. My Norinco (and I :) ) pictured below. Someone suggested a TC HotShot. Until last week, I'd never seen one of these in the flesh. Might be the smallest .22lr I've ever seen. Bet it would be a decent choice, but REALLY has child-like dimensions...the thing is tiny. For reference in the photo below.. I'm 6'1" and over 300lbs.! :redface: With a few more $, a CZ scout would be superb.

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.......what...somebody said groundhogs? :) I sense a zombie mention is imminent. :)

I've never heard "survival" and "groundhogs" in the same thread, but I CAN say, with some authority, that a .22lr isn't the greatest groundhog-slayer. I've been after those little buggers for 3 years now, with a degree of enthusiasm that puzzles most people around me. :) If groundhogs are your quarry, a .22WMR is your best choice. You can get the Stevens shorty in .22WMR, might be the exact gun for what you need. Personally, I think a full-length barrel would serve you better, and at least a 3-9x scope. Not many groundhogs are comfortable with people being closer than 75-100 yards and AT 100 yards...dialed-in to 9x, a groundhog's head looks pretty small. Year one I hunted them with an HMR, year 2 added a .22WMR, year 3...added a .223. I still use the .22WMR if the fields are REALLY flat, but use the .223 most of the time. Don't make me post photos... ;)
 
I mentioned groundhogs only because the gun I buy will be used for all .22 applications... not just camping etc... it first must meet my light and short requirements to fit in a pack etc. and then amongst those I would look at accuracy.
 
I think they're great for the money, but the mag they send with them are pure garbage. The gun is a CZ clone, so the CZ452 magazines fit perfectly. I bought 2, steel 5-rounders and shipped...that blew a hole in $100. Worth it to me, at the time...you couldn't buy the Stevens. Not sure which I'd choose now, but mine has worked flawlessly since new. Pretty decent accuracy too.

If you want to hunt groundhogs, be prepared to practice allot but still...that's too small a round to hunt them humanely in my opinion. I've seen groundhogs get gut-shot with a .243, practically cut in half, make it back to their holes. They're tough animals, and shot placement is critical if you want to take them with a rimfire. That rimfire should be a .22WMR, as stated.
 
savagelh wrote:
personally, I like a short barreled non-takedown rather then a take-down. I have a 10/22 with a light stock and 11.5" barrel thats just perfect.
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Can you post a picture of this gun Mr. Savage? :)

Thanks.
 
It is hard to do better than the Marlin Papoose this one at 4 pounds or so with optic and with a moa accuracy out of a take down rifle is the item perfect for all situation, notice the green stock, i was told by representative at Marlin that only a 1000 were made in this color... JP.
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caramel said:
It is hard to do better than the Marlin Papoose this one at 4 pounds or so with optic and with a moa accuracy out of a take down rifle is the item perfect for all situation, notice the green stock, i was told by representative at Marlin that only a 1000 were made in this color... JP.
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Nice! Finally an excuse to purchase a can of OD green krylon, my Papoose is goin' green. Looks great with the black floorplate and stainless barrel.
 
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