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Antoine22 said:
Do I read this correctly? 2.8gr of Titegroup for a 147gr bullet is WAY below minimum load. Is it possible that your charge wasn't strong enough to propel the bullet out of the barrel?
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titegroup 2.8 grain is the max in lyman 49th edition for a LEAD 147 gr bullet. Generally you start with lead data for PLATED projectiles and work up

if they were FMJ's, then yes, this would be below minimum,

BUT these cycled and shot through 100%, it was the unique powder/win FMJ projectile that failed
 
Operator error here, and one that should cause you to review your reloading and shooting practices.

I suspect that this may be the result of at least one squib load. You are lucky you didn't suffer a full catastrophic failure, or they would have been digging plastic and metal shards out of your hide.
 
Plastic toy isn't so toyish anymore?

Someone do a 2 story drop test and if it stays together after that plus these 4 lodged bullets in a barrel test it wins my admiration and purchase.

Otherwise it stays in the glorified nerf gun category :p
 
Chuck3436 said:
Plastic toy isn't so toyish anymore?

Someone do a 2 story drop test and if it stays together after that plus these 4 lodged bullets in a barrel test it wins my admiration and purchase.

Otherwise it stays in the glorified nerf gun category :p
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A real guns would have probably blown up in your face, not much do admire then.
 
:eek: That's some impressive work there! I've seen youtube videos of people trying to make things fail that didn't/couldn't get as far as you did! Multiple squibs ... enough to bend the barrel, crack the frame, and it still didn't explode!??!!?! :D
Seriously though, I laugh only because you came out of it without injury.

Certainly speaks volumes for the ruggedness of the gun though.
 
To cut the OP some slack, squib loads aren't always obvious. I've seen lots of IPSC guys try to chamber another round after having one without realizing that there had been a primer pop. I was firing off some ancient .38 wadcutter target reloads once and discovered that the bullet lube had melted at some point and contaminated the powder so I was only getting partial ignition. The first one had enough energy to get the the bullet about 5.5" down the 6" revolver barrel. I couldn't see bullet impacts because of the light conditions and I only (luckily) checked the bore because it didn't feel quite right. There wasn't a huge difference in noise and recoil.
 
IMagius said:
:eek: That's some impressive work there! I've seen youtube videos of people trying to make things fail that didn't/couldn't get as far as you did! Multiple squibs ... enough to bend the barrel, crack the frame, and it still didn't explode!??!!?! :D
Seriously though, I laugh only because you came out of it without injury.

Certainly speaks volumes for the ruggedness of the gun though.
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dont worry im laughing now too, the gun is replaceable, my face and hand arent!
 
Glad to hear you weren't hurt. Guns are replacable, people aren't.

I've only had (1) squib load and it was in an AR. I was at a machinegun shoot in the US and it was the very last round I shot before the cease fire call was made to end the event. I thought I had a dud round at first and tried to eject the round and chamber another.

There couldn't have been any powder in the case as the primer charge was just enough to put the bullet into the lands of the barrel. I ejected the empty case but didn't stop to examine the now empty cartridge case. When the next round wouldn't chamber, I couldn't tell why.

The cease fire call was made and I packed up my gear and went home. It was only when I went to clean the AR that I discovered the barrel was obstructed. Thankfully, the bullet didn't seat in the barrel far enough for another round to be able to chamber.

Somedays it's better to be lucky than good. I think you proved that.
 
Definetly not the guns fault but that comes with the territory when reloading, want to or not you will #### up a load at some point. That is why I never let other people I bring shooting shoot my reloads.

As for being a win for keltec, not really, unless they designed the blowback action?
 
Verdical Driver said:
Could the seal between the barrel and the chamber as part of the folding design also have prevented a more catastrophic failure?
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I would say not. The lockup is more solid than the forward pressure of the bolt system, so the energy will push the bolt out of battery long before it caused the lock to fail. The beauty of blowback guns, they will blowback with proper charged ammo or over charged ammo. In this case, the pressure from the weak rounds was completely directed at the bolt due to lodged projectiles and it cycled the action reliably.

TDC
 
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