Reloads with a Tavor *video*

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This was initially a response to a thread in the service rifle forum, but I figure why not post it here so we can all bask in my mediocrity.

One of the things I love about the Tavor platform is that nowhere on YouTube will you find a video of an American teenager doing this 3X faster than me. :p

I really want to get back into the habit of doing this drill every second day.

*Bam*

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And for anyone who wants to see the ones where I don't look as good: theres a full 5 minute video on Vimeo. Essentially I did four takes, with six mags each take. Some are dreadful, some aren't bad. But I definitely think its just the starter of what can be done with this platform. Find the long take: here
 
A couple comments. First off great video. Nice and bright, you can hear what you're saying and the angles clearly depict what you're doing. Second, and this is just a personal axe to grind. I believe you said you reverted back to using the charge handle when the hold open failed? I guess the charge handle is the only sure way to charge a rifle. Third, your reloads are fast, but how fast are they from kneeling and prone?

TDC
 
They sure look fast, but fast for the sake of being fast. To the point of being forced and you fumble. A slower, deliberate reload that works every time is always better than fumbling and dropping a mag as you try to be the Flash.

Great video though. Just my nitpicking input. :D
 
omegaboost said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_ULLl-8jk0&feature=youtu.be

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See, that's what I'm confused about: I've seen two other vids showing such a fast reload, and frankly I've no clue how they are doing it...where are their hands, how are they manipulating the controls so fast?!?

There was another one, showing a classroom instruction for basic handling, it looked like possibly some NCO's ('cause they were older, and seemed to know guns but not the Tavor, probably expd w M-4's), being taught the drills for speed reloads with the Tavor, from kneeling...and it was FAST. I tried finding the youtube of this class instruction, couldn't find it...
 
Watch close, the guys hand slides back just a fraction and he actives the mag release with the part of his hand just forward of the wrist behind his thumb. Then when the mag is slid home, his right thumb comes up as well to activate the bolt release.
 
The best way to load mags in the Tavor is with the "beer can grip". When you jam the mag home, you just slide your hand back to trip the bolt release.
 
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Good stuff. I'm glad to see this posted, it helps dispell some of the bullpup myths that still circulate. If you explain to a Tavor owner the opening your shooting hand and using your thumb to release the mag technique they will instantly understand. For those who don't own a Tavor the vide shows it well.

I like your push/pull description. It reminds me of RCMP training. Also the use of the charging handle as your doing fits into that same manual of arms mentality I was trained with. Ie for pistols no slide release, gross motor skills only. Slower but SHTF proven and reliable. Good stuff. It won't win you any super mall ninja awards but it's realistic training.

One minor suggestion. For the charging handle manipulations. Clam shell grip, pull with the outside of your hand up, then push with the outside of your hand up as well. No changing from fingers up on the pull to down on the push. You're not racking a 50 caliber machiShould be a bit faster by less movement and being smoother.

Yes good luck competing with a 16 year old who has nothing but time, and an endless supply of Ritalin with Red Bull. But keep in mind using the bolt release as one motion after inserting the mag will be faster. Pmags might help too since you'll be less worried about jamming a piece of polymer into the magwell of a 3k polymer rifle. Just make sure to modify them so they don't cause wear on the bolt.

Edit: watching/posting on my iPhone. Originally missed the I just finished modifinf my Pmags comment on the video. Also the 3G phones display wasn't good enough to see they were Pmags.
Again thanks for the video. Nice work.
 
With some practice the mag changes can be done easily with either the left or the right hand. Here is my wife after a few quick lessons.

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I approve! Is that a light mount sticking out the right side?

@Dave Machine: The only hard part about prone is lying on top of the chest rig. Maybe I need to get more into the crazy sideways magpul prone. Either way, I'll try to do a video next time I get range time.
 
How about mag changes from the prone, or from your support side? The LOP for Mrs. P12 is far too long, but that can't be changed. What if we add in a coat, a rig or even some armour?

TDC
 
i think this is gonna turn into a how superior the ar 15 is to the tavour thread well i own both and love both would i take a tavour into harms way absolutly but iam experienced enough to teach myself a decent manual of arms for my firearm of choice,the only main complaint i have with the tavour is if you need to shoot it from the left shoulder it cant be done safly because of the way it ejects
 
jimbo45 said:
i think this is gonna turn into a how superior the ar 15 is to the tavour thread well i own both and love both would i take a tavour into harms way absolutly but iam experienced enough to teach myself a decent manual of arms for my firearm of choice,the only main complaint i have with the tavour is if you need to shoot it from the left shoulder it cant be done safly because of the way it ejects
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That's why you need two Tavor rifles. One set up for left hand and one for right. :p

If you angle the rifle down ie twist slightly to your right you can fire left handed. The Brits use that method for their bullpups as well.

I own and like both as well. The AR has it's advantages (modularity being huge) but so does the Tavor. Plus it's just cool and a lot of fun to shoot off hand.
 
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