Tracer Bullets - what SK CFO has to say

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There was some discussion on tracer bullets in another thread, and some felt they were legal for civilian use (ie the general public).

I couldn't find it in the reg's at a glance so sent of an email to the CFO for SK to seek thier opinion.

His responce, "Did some quick checks and your question about tracer ammo is that they are a ''Prohibited Device'' in Canada. They are only legal for the Army and the Police ERT Teams."

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One of the ammo dealers (Canada ammo? apologies if I'm incorrect) posted the long version of it but they are 'illegal' because they 'technically' don't fit the description of a 'safety cartridge'. Or something along those lines. From what I understand it is not widely enforced.
 
what about the chemical tracers that look like the glow sticks? you can get them for shotguns. nothing toxic about them nothing that burns
 
So, seeing as they are not a prohibited device, rather they are 'not authorized'; what is the penalty for possession?
 
The CFO is a turd using his position of authority to BS you.

If they were prohib they would be arresting guys by the bus load at gun shows
 
PART 5
PROHIBITED AMMUNITION

Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 10

1. Any cartridge that is capable of being discharged from a commonly available semi-automatic handgun or revolver and that is manufactured or assembled with a projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered so as to be capable of penetrating body armour, including KTW, THV and 5.7 x 28 mm P-90 cartridges.

2. Any projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered to ignite on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter.

3. Any projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered so as to explode on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter.

4. Any cartridge that is capable of being discharged from a shotgun and that contains projectiles known as “fléchettes” or any similar projectiles.
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I don't know what kind of crap is on the CBSA website but they are legal. Look up the definition of safety cartridges, and the only thing excluded is incendiary ammunition

The overlords at NARCAN just wont let you import them
Rules re: tracers

There seems to be various discussions about the legality of tracer ammo in Canada.

The simple answer is that they are not legal to sell, buy, import or posess.

However, these rules appear to be generally ignored by NRCAN, et al., evidenced by the fact that much of the ammo in Canada is not authorized, i.e. Imperial ammo is not on the authorized list. There is no mention of grandfathering in the regs.

http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/minerals-metals/explosives/4118

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Authorization is the process by which an explosive substance or explosive article, as defined in the Explosives Act and Regulations, is declared authorized by the Chief Inspector, at which time it becomes legal to manufacture, sell, possess or use that explosive or explosive article in Canada or import it into Canada; only after approval is the item added to the list of authorized explosives. As part of this process, the explosive substances or explosive articles are classified in accordance with the Explosives Regulations. Only an explosive substance or explosive article under the care and control of the Department of National Defence is exempt from authorization.

3.1 Products Not Authorized in Canada
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- ammunition that includes a tracer, an incendiary composition, a high explosive or other similar military-type ammunition;
http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/reg...crc-c-599.html

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“safety cartridge” means a cartridge for any shotgun, gun, rifle, pistol, revolver and industrial gun the case of which can be extracted after firing and that is so closed as to prevent any explosion in one cartridge being communicated to another cartridge but does not include tracer, incendiary, high explosive or other similar military type cartridges; (cartouche de sûreté);
Please note that these rules are not the firearms act or criminal code, which we are generally more familiar with and do not mention tracers.
Hopefully, they will change their position on tracers, as they recently did with frangible ammo.

Also, notwithstanding the above, to store tracers would require a magazine license since they are not "safety cartridges", and only they have a special exemption from the storage regs.
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Courtesy of Canam in the rimfire section.
 
I asked the same question about tracer ammo and got the same answer from the Ontario office and head office in NB, and that tracer ammo is a prohib device, but than as Canada Ammo says the6y are not, just a another prime example of the CFO not knowing thew rules, than the rules as they are waritten are open to interpatation by anyone in a position of authority and employed by the CFC .
 
TGC said:
I asked the same question about tracer ammo and got the same answer from the Ontario office and head office in NB, and that tracer ammo is a prohib device, but than as Canada Ammo says the6y are not, just a another prime example of the CFO not knowing thew rules, than the rules as they are waritten are open to interpatation by anyone in a position of authority and employed by the CFC .
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I think it is more likely a simplified answer for the general public. The full answer is complicated.
 
Not to start a whole new argument here, but why do you as a civilian need tracer rounds. If your only reason for wanting them, is because you can. On that same principal why can i not own a Hellfire or GPU missile? I think they should be illegal for civilians, they are a huge fire hazard, and chances are all your going to do is start a fire. I can attest to that, ive i watched acres and acres burn out of control from nothing more then tracer rounds.
 
SHPRAC said:
Not to start a whole new argument here, but why do you as a civilian need tracer rounds. If your only reason for wanting them, is because you can. On that same principal why can i not own a Hellfire or GPU missile? I think they should be illegal for civilians, they are a huge fire hazard, and chances are all your going to do is start a fire. I can attest to that, ive i watched acres and acres burn out of control from nothing more then tracer rounds.
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And if I find cheap tracer ammo and I live in a rainforest? Or I shoot at a range with sand berms?

"Why do you as a civilian need" ...a handgun? Are you sure you want to start that discussion?

"I think they should be illegal for civilians." Mr. Shprac, meet Mr. Allen Rock.
 
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