Tracer Bullets - what SK CFO has to say

If we banned everything that ever started a fire, we wouldn't have much left. BBQs gone, wood stove gone, fireplace gone, no power to the house, your tail pipe in tall dry grass gone. Candles, oil lamps and Christmas lights gone. Isn't the bullet itself more dangerous than the fact that it's a tracer? Are they looking for "safe" bullets? A safe 3000fps 180 gr bullet? Maybe it is just me.... You can still smoke cigarettes in the bush, just don't burn the country down. Isn't a cigarette more of a threat to the forest than a tracer? Haven't BP shooters started more fires than tracers? Who mentioned rockets? I'm 47 and still play with model rockets. Why? It's a guy thing. I don't them, but I need to live the life of a guy, not a life in a regulated box. Other than the fire hazard, tracers have a stigma in the public perception because of their military use. They don't seem to apply the same stigma to radios, boots and camo vests. Big deal if you can see your bullet going. Isn't that actually safer? It's a whacked-out world.
 
This is no joke my good sir, after a long day i finally got to my coffee. I was, by the microwave denied my right for warm coffee.


Either way, i dont really agree, as i dont see the need for civi's to use them. I do understand were everyone is coming from. I just dont think its worth making a huge stink over. ovrec

As for the jug of gas, i think i saw it on mythbuster. I believe it was the episode they were shooting C4. If i remember right, i believe it did work.

So I suppose now you want regulation to govern the size of coffee cups because no one NEEDS a coffee that big.

I will assume that by your comments you are involved in the shooting sports, so if you dont mind me asking. Are you able to correctly choose the right combination of cartridge, firearm? It really is a lot smaller than your XL cup microwave combo. If you want I think I saw one of those kids toy thingy's lying around that I could send you. You know the ones where you put the correct size/shape object in the correct size/shape hole.

Also I would really like to discourage you from taking up reloading. It has really small size/shape challenges that I dont think your ready for. And if you screw these up bad enough the results could be really harmful.

On second thought, who am I to try and stop stupid from acting out it's role in nature.....have at er!
 
i hope your just being sarcastic otherwise :slap:

No I am being dumb... but its like an NBA player playing Ice hockey after the game or practice. Us civilians are held to a much lower standard at work so we can get away with such things. There is no legit reason in my opinion for armed forces members and police to have access to anything but there issued kit.
 
Sorry. What was the question again? It's been aerobic reading all this. From the other replies it seems tracers are in that grey area, caught between two laws? (scared to ask but is there a lawyer on here?)
 
No I am being dumb... but its like an NBA player playing Ice hockey after the game or practice. Us civilians are held to a much lower standard at work so we can get away with such things. There is no legit reason in my opinion for armed forces members and police to have access to anything but there issued kit.

As far as work is concerned, Forces side of the house, this is pretty much exactly the sentiment of the JAG staff that writes up the ROE's too.

Dropping your issued kit and using pick-up weapons and ammo is video game stuff, and makes a swell movie plot, but has nothing to do with reality.

Only approved firearms and ammo are to be used. Among other things, this is to prevent incidents that would be considered to fall outside the Laws of warfare.

There are exceptions, under defined circumstances, if one gets into it deeply, but really, for all intents and purposes, you only need the stuff you were issued, and if you are using something else, you may get called out to stand in front of someone and explain, to your potential detriment.

EVERYTHING that is in these policies has been filtered through thousands of pounds of Lawyers, and all policy decisions are treated as if they will have to be defended in Court.

I would put money on a bet that Police policies are done the same way, considering how much more likely ending up defending the policies in a court is.

Dunno about the cops side, but the CF has a process whereby the more or less random firearms can be inspected and approved, thus becoming the issued duty weapon for those purposes (mainly small arms famil).

Sooo...As much as it may rankle, Big JD pretty much hit right on to regular policy, at least as far as work goes.

The Sask CFO seems to think Flammable (Tracer) means the same thing as Incendiary (designed to light stuff it hits on fire), which ain't the same thing, or they'd both have the same name, eh.

Cheers
Trev
 
I don't get SHPRAC

when someone says, "You don't NEED it", I say "Shut up! Who the H3!! do you think you are?"

in a Free and Democratic society, you shall NEVER ask someone if they NEED something.

Why should YOU care what I have or do, as long as it affects you NOT, you have NO say.

It is a VERY DANGEROUS question to ask, in a FREE society, and ANYONE who asks it, is a Danger to ALL OUR FREEDOMS.

Don't YOU Get THAT??????
 
oh, yeah...

Tracers make FANTASTIC training aids to help Children understand bullet trajectories, and ricochet.

Yup... a FANTASTIC aid, that I have used a few times.

Every firearms/hunter safety instructor should use them
 
tracers are NOT in the prohib ammunitions list but since they have a restricted chemical in them NRCAN is against it. same category as potasium nitrate / ammunium nitrate / and so on but we have these compounds all arounds us just need an explosives license from NRCAN. it all goes back to paying the bastards to keep their ####ing mouth shut
 
tracers are NOT in the prohib ammunitions list but since they have a restricted chemical in them NRCAN is against it. same category as potasium nitrate / ammunium nitrate / and so on but we have these compounds all arounds us just need an explosives license from NRCAN. it all goes back to paying the bastards to keep their f**king mouth shut

Is it Strontium Nitrate that you are referring to?
From Wiki:
"The tracer compound contains composition R 284 which is 17% polyvinyl chloride, 28% magnesium powder, and 55% strontium nitrate."
 
that's just one method of making tracers. http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/minerals-metals/explosives/3634
Is it Strontium Nitrate that you are referring to?
From Wiki:
"The tracer compound contains composition R 284 which is 17% polyvinyl chloride, 28% magnesium powder, and 55% strontium nitrate."
 
I just dont want or need them enough to make a huge deal out of, which seems to be the popular thing to do currently. Obviously most of you have taken it personally and a few being very immature. So just gonna leave it alone after this.
 
Thanks for concern. It's your kind of thinking that have us issues with hollowpoint bullets for so many years.
 
I just dont want or need them enough to make a huge deal out of, which seems to be the popular thing to do currently. Obviously most of you have taken it personally and a few being very immature. So just gonna leave it alone after this.

I don't want or need a handgun so I don't think you should have one ither. There is no use for them, they are dangerous, blah blah blah :HR:
 
Thanks for concern. It's your kind of thinking that have us issues with hollowpoint bullets for so many years.

See, you miss understand me. I support the fight for anything in the firearms community. I will also support this.

All im saying is i dont see the big deal. There just tracers. There not even accurate lol.
 
I can't resist another molehill. "They're just tracers" not "there just tracers." The original question was about the legality, right? Seems they are legal, but the stuff in them isn't quite appropriate? Shouldn't this discussion be part of a separate thread, and let this guy get the legal answer he's looking for? Which seems to have been answered in a 'round about way? I need beer, Playboy, a new fly reel, better cigars, more brass and custom moulds.
 
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