How treat brass after pulling bullets?

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I used an inertia bullet puller to take the bullets out of 40 30-30 cartridges. My question is what do I have to do to the brass before I can reload them?
Do they need to be resized..(sounds a bit dangerous?) or can I just recharge them with powder, and reseat a new bullet without having to do anything?
Would appreciate some advice please! Blowing off a finger would be such bad form.:eek::eek:
 
dsly said:
I used an inertia bullet puller to take the bullets out of 40 30-30 cartridges. My question is what do I have to do to the brass before I can reload them?
Do they need to be resized..(sounds a bit dangerous?) or can I just recharge them with powder, and reseat a new bullet without having to do anything?
Would appreciate some advice please! Blowing off a finger would be such bad form.:eek::eek:
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Brother, just throw in your powder charge and seat your bullet. Nothing more needed. Enjoy.
 
Back the de-caping pin out/up to a point in the center of the cartrige and run thru the fl sizer do not de cap and the rest will take care of it'self, you are just trying to restore proper neck tention to hold your bullet.
 
dsly said:
I used an inertia bullet puller to take the bullets out of 40 30-30 cartridges. My question is what do I have to do to the brass before I can reload them?
Do they need to be resized..(sounds a bit dangerous?) or can I just recharge them with powder, and reseat a new bullet without having to do anything?
Would appreciate some advice please! Blowing off a finger would be such bad form.:eek::eek:
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Why did you dis-assemble the original rounds and why are you attempting to reload ammo when you don't know what you are doing?
 
blaser.306 said:
Back the de-caping pin out/up to a point in the center of the cartrige and run thru the fl sizer do not de cap and the rest will take care of it'self, you are just trying to restore proper neck tention to hold your bullet.
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pulling the bullet does NOT affect the neck tesion of the case. Where did you get that theory? Neck tension changes when you fire the round since it expands to the size of the chamber. Other than that, nothing you did affected the neck tension.
 
dsly, if they were your own reloads, and you did not crimp, then the neck should be good to go to just seat bullets. If they were factory rounds, or if you used some version of crimp (not necessary for 30-30, but becoming exceedingly popular as gadget manufacturers manufature gadgets to do so, so consumers find it absolutely necessary to acquire and use every gadget marketed)

If you used some form of crimp, the case will need to have the crimp removed, or you will likely crumple the case when you attempt to seat the new bullet.

And NWT-Joe, aren't we grumpy tonight. Me, I learned to load by doing. As did just about everyone else on this forum. Why did the OP pull bullets? Because he could.
 
joe-nwt said:
Why did you dis-assemble the original rounds and why are you attempting to reload ammo when you don't know what you are doing?
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Way to be helpful, good on ya:rolleyes:
He knew enough not to shoot the ammo for whatever reason, so give a little credit. Or just keep doing whatever it is you do. :jerkit:
 
I always neck size again. Sizing half the length of the neck is enough.

May not be needed, but that is the way i do it.
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Whether or not neck tension is effected is easy to prove,by measuring the case neck diameter after the bullet is pulled, and then after the case is run through the sizing die again. I do find a slight difference in many cases.
 
I know from pulling x39 that if you don't resize the neck the bullets do funny things on there way up the feed ramp in my SKS and XCR....

As always, YMMV
 
rookie wildcat said:
pulling the bullet does NOT affect the neck tesion of the case. Where did you get that theory? Neck tension changes when you fire the round since it expands to the size of the chamber. Other than that, nothing you did affected the neck tension.
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Might just be me but I am pretty sure that when I size my necks the ID is a few thou smaller than the bullet. Seating a bullet in the case will stretch the neck out to a degree.

It will still hold a bullet when seated, but not as tightly as it did after the initial sizing, therefore it definitely DOES affect neck tension.

I am not an expert on the matter, nor do I claim to be one but I do play one on TV.

OP, take all advice for what it is worth around here......free.

I would back out the de-cap pin, if you don't wish to re-prime, and resize the neck to achieve your initial neck tension. Just my $0.02
 
Might just be me but I am pretty sure that when I size my necks the ID is a few thou smaller than the bullet. Seating a bullet in the case will stretch the neck out to a degree.

It will still hold a bullet when seated, but not as tightly as it did after the initial sizing, therefore it definitely DOES affect neck tension.
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That has been my experience as well.
 
My, aren't we rude....

joe-nwt said:
Why did you dis-assemble the original rounds and why are you attempting to reload ammo when you don't know what you are doing?
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Joe-NWT:
The first is a reasonable question, and the second is just rude. You've made eight thousand posts?? Were any of them constructive?

The answer to the first is that I pulled some 140 gr. Monoflex hornady bullets that I had loaded to regular OAL (same as Hornady factory loads) using load data provided by Hornady, and found that in my Marlin 336C they were giving 18" groups at 100 yds.
Obviously something needed to be changed, and clearly throwing out that many rounds would be stupid.
I am going through the process of experimenting with changing the seating depth of the bullet, starting at .002 off the lands, and increasing in .002 increments to find the sweet spot. So far, seating .006 off the lands is best, giving a group of 1.4" at 100 yds., but I think this can be improved.

However, not having pulled bullets and re-processed brass before, I thought I would put the question to a group of well-informed, helpful and friendly individuals. Guess that list doesn't include you.:rolleyes:
 
I hope that thru all the bickering and heavy handed opinions you are getting the info that you needed! I find that the "attitude" proliferates thru the shooting fraternity and in my opinion it is what keeps people that have valid questions from asking for advice from those with experience. As you continue along this path of handcrafting ammunition you will find that there is a very real difference between those that simply reload ( happy to make ammo that shoots well ) and those that handload , ( make ammo that shoots as well and as accurately as possibe ) in their firearm. this is a semmingly never ending hobby/chalenge ,But when you find what you are looking for . Then you can change 1 componant and strt from the beggining again. I personaly beleive that handloading is just a reason to have more time at the range ! YMMV.
 
rookie wildcat said:
pulling the bullet does NOT affect the neck tesion of the case. Where did you get that theory? Neck tension changes when you fire the round since it expands to the size of the chamber. Other than that, nothing you did affected the neck tension.
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In my experience it is necessary to size the necks. If I don't, case neck tension is extremely variable. Varies from bullets seating normally to being able to pull them out with the fingers.
Of course, you experience may be different - but it isn't a theory.
 
tiriaq said:
In my experience it is necessary to size the necks. If I don't, case neck tension is extremely variable. ...
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This is my experience as well.
Plus I want lots of neck tension on my .30-30 and it's not too uncommon for me to crimp them too. The magazine on a levergun can be a little rough on OAL if everything isn't real tight.
 
blaser.306 said:
I hope that thru all the bickering and heavy handed opinions you are getting the info that you needed! I find that the "attitude" proliferates thru the shooting fraternity and in my opinion it is what keeps people that have valid questions from asking for advice from those with experience. YMMV.
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Thanks for the kind words! However, I've been a high school teacher for 25 years, and what I see here doesn't even come close to bickering and attitude!Laugh2
 
If it were me in your situation, I would pull the de-capping pin and neck size only.
You are trying to tighten the group so it's best to try and leave out any gremlins.
Keep them all the same to achieve the best results.
You can't stop a gust of wind, but in the reloading process, best to keep things
all on the same page.
 
dsly said:
Joe-NWT:
The first is a reasonable question, and the second is just rude. You've made eight thousand posts?? Were any of them constructive?

The answer to the first is that I pulled some 140 gr. Monoflex hornady bullets that I had loaded to regular OAL (same as Hornady factory loads) using load data provided by Hornady, and found that in my Marlin 336C they were giving 18" groups at 100 yds.
Obviously something needed to be changed, and clearly throwing out that many rounds would be stupid.
I am going through the process of experimenting with changing the seating depth of the bullet, starting at .002 off the lands, and increasing in .002 increments to find the sweet spot. So far, seating .006 off the lands is best, giving a group of 1.4" at 100 yds., but I think this can be improved.

However, not having pulled bullets and re-processed brass before, I thought I would put the question to a group of well-informed, helpful and friendly individuals. Guess that list doesn't include you.:rolleyes:
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Well lets have another look at your original post, shall we?

dsly said:
I used an inertia bullet puller to take the bullets out of 40 30-30 cartridges. My question is what do I have to do to the brass before I can reload them?
Do they need to be resized..(sounds a bit dangerous?) or can I just recharge them with powder, and reseat a new bullet without having to do anything?
Would appreciate some advice please! Blowing off a finger would be such bad form.:eek::eek:
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First off, print/save the above, put it away for a couple years and then pull it out again once you have some experience under your belt and read it and see what you think.:)

Nowhere did you say you had originally loaded the 40 rounds. To me, it sounded like maybe they were old, corroded, found, whatever. Then you asked about resizing them and said that sounds a bit dangerous. And at the last part you were concerned about blowing your finger off.

However wrong I apparently was, nothing in your original post indicated you knew anything about reloading, and yes, I was concerned you might blow your finger off too! That's it, concern that came out a bit harsh. But keep piling on Joe, he doesn't mind as long as you learned something, even if its not from me.
 
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