858 bore chroming
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Chrome lining is for rapid fire military rifles that are exposed to moister and don't have a chance of getting cleaned often. You don't need your barrel chrome lined and that’s why they don't do it to the non-restricted 858s. Clean your barrel properly, and it will last a very long time.
I've also left my CZ 858 un-cleaned for a few days and not a sign of rust. As long as moister can't get to it, it can't rust, Sure, there is moister in the air but, because there is a layer of fowling air can't get at the metal. That’s why it’s a big mistake to spray Windex in the barrel after your done shooting. You bring it home, in a few hours you decide to clean it, and it looks like a gravel pit in their that’s how fast it will rust if it gets wet.
Be smart, clean your gun properly, and save your money instead of having it chrome lined.
I've also left my CZ 858 un-cleaned for a few days and not a sign of rust. As long as moister can't get to it, it can't rust, Sure, there is moister in the air but, because there is a layer of fowling air can't get at the metal. That’s why it’s a big mistake to spray Windex in the barrel after your done shooting. You bring it home, in a few hours you decide to clean it, and it looks like a gravel pit in their that’s how fast it will rust if it gets wet.
Be smart, clean your gun properly, and save your money instead of having it chrome lined.
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
It was Rauch Tactical, and I don't even know if they still exist, as I haven't seen anything from them here for awhile.
They did not do Chrome, as it is not possible to plate the inside of the barrel as it is now. Several issues, such as adding material to a precisely sized bore for one.
They did some other type of treatment but I can't name it. Some guys had it done although I can't say many, but in the end I find it a waste of time, and money.
They did not do Chrome, as it is not possible to plate the inside of the barrel as it is now. Several issues, such as adding material to a precisely sized bore for one.
They did some other type of treatment but I can't name it. Some guys had it done although I can't say many, but in the end I find it a waste of time, and money.
Chrome lining is for rapid fire military rifles that are exposed to moister and don't have a chance of getting cleaned often. You don't need your barrel chrome lined and that’s why they don't do it to the non-restricted 858s. Clean your barrel properly, and it will last a very long time.
I've also left my CZ 858 un-cleaned for a few days and not a sign of rust. As long as moister can't get to it, it can't rust, Sure, there is moister in the air but, because there is a layer of fowling air can't get at the metal. That’s why it’s a big mistake to spray Windex in the barrel after your done shooting. You bring it home, in a few hours you decide to clean it, and it looks like a gravel pit in their that’s how fast it will rust if it gets wet.
Be smart, clean your gun properly, and save your money instead of having it chrome lined.
I realize that cleaning your gun will keep it from rusting, but I would use it a lot more if you could treat it like an sks and throw it back behind the seat until the next time there is a coyote, badger or whatever.
I've also left my CZ 858 un-cleaned for a few days and not a sign of rust. As long as moister can't get to it, it can't rust, Sure, there is moister in the air but, because there is a layer of fowling air can't get at the metal. That’s why it’s a big mistake to spray Windex in the barrel after your done shooting. You bring it home, in a few hours you decide to clean it, and it looks like a gravel pit in their that’s how fast it will rust if it gets wet.
Be smart, clean your gun properly, and save your money instead of having it chrome lined.
I realize that cleaning your gun will keep it from rusting, but I would use it a lot more if you could treat it like an sks and throw it back behind the seat until the next time there is a coyote, badger or whatever.
Then use Sellior & Bellot Boxer Primed true non-corrosive 7.62x39mm soft points. These are actual hunting rounds. Hunting rifles don't have chrome lined barrels and I know some people who won't clean their hunting rifles all the way until hunting season is over and there barrels look fine. You're not supposed to be using that surplus stuff for hunting anyways and I sure as hell hope you’re not using that stuff for that purpose even if it is varmint.
I had the Rauch nitrocarb treatment on my 858, even in the rustastic B.C. coast climate it is corrosion resistant far beyond what's needed in the face of corrosive ammo and also incredibly scratch and wear resistant.
That said, if I had to do it again I probably wouldn't bother, it was a lot of hassle for a cheap gun and I never had a problem with rust anyway since I use decent oils and never let the gun sit around too long before cleaning it after shooting anyway.
That said, if I had to do it again I probably wouldn't bother, it was a lot of hassle for a cheap gun and I never had a problem with rust anyway since I use decent oils and never let the gun sit around too long before cleaning it after shooting anyway.
Same here, didnt have rust issues but at $119 the treatment was cheap and came out very very nice, resistant and corrosion resistant for sure. I dont regret to have it done.
Jocelyn
Yea because chrome lining is really hard to get it evenly coated. This is the reason why they don't ever chrome line a hunting rifles barrel. Chrome lining is just completely un-necessary in civilian use. Not saying you shouldn't be able to have it if you want it though.
I had it done as well and don't regret it one bit. They completely stripped the ugly blue grey paint off and put a super tough greenish finish on there that looks 100x's better. The improved corrosion resistance was a bonus. The argument of you don't need it, just clean it properly is like saying that pulling out early will prevent pregnancy. A lot can be said for proper protection. 
jcoulson64
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- Location
- Somewhere in the Western Colonies
Id like to get my 858 done. I really dont care for the whole "youll never need it as a civilian etc etc" argument. Id like it done to my rifle and I have the money to do it. i want it because I want it, not because I need it.
Anyone hear of anyone doing a "group buy" for nitrocarburizing or anyone doing chrome lining etc after market?
Anyone hear of anyone doing a "group buy" for nitrocarburizing or anyone doing chrome lining etc after market?
Chrome Lined 858's
Word on the street is that Czech Arms are building new 858's with Chrome Lined non-restricted barrels. All of the current 858's are built from parts of rifles and are not "new". My source was SFRC. They will be more costly of course, close to $1000.00 rather then the current $700.00.
I'm holding until they come on the market.
Word on the street is that Czech Arms are building new 858's with Chrome Lined non-restricted barrels. All of the current 858's are built from parts of rifles and are not "new". My source was SFRC. They will be more costly of course, close to $1000.00 rather then the current $700.00.
I'm holding until they come on the market.
I don't think that is entirely accurate.
x2. Hopefully someone will pipe up.
the argument that you "dont need" chrome lining is kind of ignorant, really. None of us "need" an 858 when theres single shot .22's that do the same thing to a paper target but we still own them. Nobody really needs all the aftermarket stuff we have for them but we still buy them. So if a guy wants to treat his rifle to a little extra protection who is to say he's wrong? Also, the fouling left behind is a rust trap because it is not a solid structure. An uncleaned hunting rifle will eventually rust from moisture slowly making its way in and sitting in the bore. Ive seen it myself. Also, you get copper fouling over top of powder fouling that will result in rust if left long enough. Ive cleaned the powder fouling from my 858 and left the top layer of copper with a heavy coat of oil and still got rust. In a damp climate it happens quick so coastal ppl really benefit from this.
Please explain. My understanding is that the soft point will expand and be a more humane, expedient killing shot, so the surplus stuff would be a bad choice for medium game.
But on small game/varmints, wouldn't the 7.62 x 39 surplus round cause enough tissue damage for a quick kill?
Please note, I have not had the pleasure of hunting anything but paper yet. Just looking to get informed.
