Hypothetical M4/AR deactivation?

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Okay, I am in no way considering deactivating an M4 of any sort. I am putting on my flame suit to ask a hypothetical question, in full knowledge that I'm about to be blasted by the entire black rifle forum.

My question is pertaining to the hypothetical deactivation process, and how it would work on an M4/AR type rifle.

Since the "firearm" is technically only the frame of the firearm, is it correct to say that welding the barrel would not suffice? A deactivation of the lower would be required, no? In this case, would a simple removal of all of the internal parts/mechanism be sufficient to render the firearm "deactivated"? or does the Gestapo normally require welding of some sort to permanently ensure the firearm can never be used again?

If those rotten Liberals ever get in, I'm just wondering if I'll at least be able to fondle my gorgeous deactivated M4 in peace....
 
50calshooter said:
I'd "flip over my boat" in a bottomless lake with all my guns onboard before I'd give them up or deactivate.

Jus sayin'
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Thats good for you. But he still has a question. It wasn't who sells them or can do it.

He wants to know HOW its done. I personally don't know.

But I'm interested if only for not knowing.
 
for a deactivation, the gun has to be a paperweight, and has to be done so that it will always be a paperweight and cant be changed back, so the lower would need to be permanently attached to the upper, Bolt welted into the barrel FP hole welded up, a rod welded into the barrel, generally the firing mechanism removed so it is only the trigger welded in place.
 
For an AR15 LOWER you would probably end up having to remove the trigger components and filling the internal cavity with some sort of heavy-duty epoxy or weld something in place. More than likely buffer tube would need to be filled with something and welded in place.

The upper is already covered well by Aries, however since the upper isn't the firearm, I would honestly say you shouldn't NEED to do anything to the upper. However a deactivation is a whole 'nother can of beans so I would say talk to the CFC and make sure, I could 100% be wrong.
 
Why not deac just the lower? Or get an 80% lower, and glue on a selector and trigger. Or, airsoft? You are going to end up spending a ####ton more for the real thing, deactivated, when there are much cheaper options.
 
Years ago, I was shown how an AR was going to be de-activated by a company in Western Canada that has since closed.

The process (at the time) was described as quite simple.

1. They would plug the barrel with weld at the receiver end.
2. Remove the bolt-head from the bolt and assemble the rifle (placing the bolt-head and associated bits in the cleaning kit trap in the butt-stock)
3. Weld the rear take-down pin in place.

Done.

Now it requires a somewhat greater amount of destruction to be applied to the firearm.

NS
 
Greg asked a very good question: I might inherit many restricted/prohibited weapons and will have them deactivated if I can sell them for a better price that way.

I love shooting and rifles but owning restricted or prohibited rifles in Quebec is simply too much trouble for me. Better have the rifles deactivated and be able to own and sell them freely.

Alex
 
AlexF said:
Greg asked a very good question: I might inherit many restricted/prohibited weapons and will have them deactivated if I can sell them for a better price that way.

I love shooting and rifles but owning restricted or prohibited rifles in Quebec is simply too much trouble for me. Better have the rifles deactivated and be able to own and sell them freely.

Alex
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Music to an anti's ears... Just folding like a cheap wal-mart tent eh?


You sir have already given up... Sack up and get involved, then get your friends involved... geez
 
ye, giving up, thanks for giving. your grand children can thank you for losing Quebec to the anti's. Ups, its already lost.
 
Here's my problem with some of the explanations given thus far:

The Upper is not a firearm.

The RCMP would have ZERO business telling anyone to deactivate an upper, and, IMO could be told to bugger off..... No?

An 80% lower to go along with my never-to-be-deactivated upper, might be on my "to-buy" list.
 
greg11 said:
An 80% lower to go along with my never-to-be-deactivated upper, might be on my "to-buy" list.
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Sounds like a grand way to store an AR for a long period of time.

Is it at all possible to "deactivate" (un-register) a lower buy simply taking some parts out so it won't fire?
 
clickclickboom said:
My understanding is that one only have to register the lower once it is capable of working. I'm fairly certain of this, hence the question.
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You are confused. You can buy lowers that are "blanks" and require finish machining to become a stripped lower. Once it is capable of accepting the lower parts kit it is in need of registration.
 
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