Ruger P89 Trigger Adjustments / Modification

[BigGameHunter]

I have a 9mm Ruger P89. After 2000 rounds or so the trigger pull has really smoothed out and it actually of nice weight. The only problem is the 1/4" at least of initial takeup before the trigger breaks clean. Is there any way to adjust this via new springs, adjusting of a spring or a part in the trigger group that can be replaced. Besides that I really like this pistol as it works good for myself and is at least as accurate as myself if not more. If I could modify the trigger I think I could shrink my groups down even more.

Also is there a complete trigger that you can buy for this gun? I have never been able to find any usefull aftermarket parts for this.

Wolf Springs only has Hammer, Recoil and Magazine Springs. Would replacing the Hammer Spring help? They are between 19-22 lbs higher number being standard. I thought maybe the hammer spring would help with the double action but there is no real takeup with the double action as it is a stiffer much longer pull that is not too enjoyable. If the trigger length was reduced this would greatly improve double action shooting as well.

I have average sized hands and the gun is about as large as I would go in a 9mm but I like that too because there is not a lot of room for slop however when the hammer is cocked the length of pull in single action once taken back is much more comfortable with this handgun for smaller hand individuals.

Anyone with experience using this gun as a base for competitive shooting, target shooting or anything where they have had success modifying this trigger please let me know as any step in the right direction with this is better than where I am at right now.

Thanks.

 

[Tragedy]

I replaced my hammer spring with a wolf 19lbs or 20lbs reduced power(cant remember), did a trigger job and i also swaped my trigger for a p95 trigger for better ergo ... totally changed the feel and squeeze of the trigger, puts my finger in a better position. I dont think there is anything on the market for the takeup you would have to modify or make a new trigger bar and maybe alter a few other things.

This is my favorite gun and most people hate them because there bulky (bricks)the gun is overbuilt. Ive had 0 issues with mine and it eats anything i feed it.

heres a link Ruger P89 to P95 trigger swap

you can also find replacement parts from numrich gun parts, everything but the frame.

 

[stevebc]

Well, good luck with that.
You could replace the mainspring to lighten the pull, but the P85/P89's aren't known as accurate guns. I put $350 into a trigger job on my 85, and had little to show for it. In the end, I traded it and another gun in and bought a CZ Shadow: MUCH better trigger right out of the box, MUCH better grip right out of the box, and MUCH more accurate.
Plus you can swap out the standard 18lb spring for a 13lb, and get much thinner grips to improve the grip even more.

Your gun is great in many ways, but it'll never be a competitive target pistol, no matter what you do to it.

 

[BigGameHunter]

Well, good luck with that.
You could replace the mainspring to lighten the pull, but the P85/P89's aren't known as accurate guns. I put $350 into a trigger job on my 85, and had little to show for it. In the end, I traded it and another gun in and bought a CZ Shadow: MUCH better trigger right out of the box, MUCH better grip right out of the box, and MUCH more accurate.
Plus you can swap out the standard 18lb spring for a 13lb, and get much thinner grips to improve the grip even more.

Your gun is great in many ways, but it'll never be a competitive target pistol, no matter what you do to it.

I don't want it for competition just to make it a better trigger to get marginal improvment in my accuracy. What do you mean they are not known as accurate guns? That is not one of their faults. As a matter of fact the only fault I have every come across is aesthetics. The over built body and general bulk however you can shoot SMG and other hot 9mm loads out of it and any 9mm factory load on the market gets eaten by it. I have never had anything close to a jam with it. Also why would you spend 350 on a sub 500 dollar gun for a trigger job? That sounds a bit out there if you ask me.

You post has a bit of an elitist look to it. I have shot a CZ75 and 85 and while they are nice I would still take the Ruger over them any day. I do agree however that the 75 is a better platform for starting off for competition but head to head stock besides the trigger I don't find anything else to be a great improvement.

That being said I would probably go for something completely different if I was going for competition but all I asked was how to get the trigger down to a crisp weight and feel not to have my gun put down.

I tell you out of the last 3 topics I have started 2 of them have been littered with comments that really contribute nothing to helping me out so why not just save your comments for something you can contribute on instead of just taking jabs at one of the handguns I own that I happen to like shooting.

Edit : I know I appealed to individuals who possibly used this gun for competition (which I am sure someone has) but that does not mean that is my plan. I simply want to know how to make the trigger break under less force and reduce the take away.

 

[easyrider604]

I don't want it for competition just to make it a better trigger to get marginal improvment in my accuracy. What do you mean they are not known as accurate guns? That is not one of their faults. As a matter of fact the only fault I have every come across is aesthetics. The over built body and general bulk however you can shoot SMG and other hot 9mm loads out of it and any 9mm factory load on the market gets eaten by it. I have never had anything close to a jam with it. Also why would you spend 350 on a sub 500 dollar gun for a trigger job? That sounds a bit out there if you ask me.

You post has a bit of an elitist look to it. I have shot a CZ75 and 85 and while they are nice I would still take the Ruger over them any day. I do agree however that the 75 is a better platform for starting off for competition but head to head stock besides the trigger I don't find anything else to be a great improvement.

That being said I would probably go for something completely different if I was going for competition but all I asked was how to get the trigger down to a crisp weight and feel not to have my gun put down.

I tell you out of the last 3 topics I have started 2 of them have been littered with comments that really contribute nothing to helping me out so why not just save your comments for something you can contribute on instead of just taking jabs at one of the handguns I own that I happen to like shooting.

Edit : I know I appealed to individuals who possibly used this gun for competition (which I am sure someone has) but that does not mean that is my plan. I simply want to know how to make the trigger break under less force and reduce the take away.

Whoa! Calm down, buddy. I hear ya. We are in the same boat. Some posters just write and respond that way, probably don't mean anything by it. In fact, the poster even stuck a smiley in there. This one doesn't even come close to those who are downright rude. I've had my share and just ignore them.

Now back to topic, I got 2 x P89s, 1 x P91 and 1 x P90. Love shooting them all, perhaps even use them for IDPA if they ever bring that sport into POCO. Just my experience but none of their triggers bother me. Maybe all you need to is shoot your P89 some more and let nature take its course.

Some guys like to tinker and I used to do that too. But over the years, I learned not to fix things that ain't really broke. YMMV.

I do shoot wheelguns a lot, so my trigger finger is used to stiff, long DA pulls...perhaps that's why I love my Ruger P-series so much. Good luck.

 

[stevebc]

I don't want it for competition just to make it a better trigger to get marginal improvment in my accuracy. What do you mean they are not known as accurate guns? That is not one of their faults. As a matter of fact the only fault I have every come across is aesthetics. The over built body and general bulk however you can shoot SMG and other hot 9mm loads out of it and any 9mm factory load on the market gets eaten by it. I have never had anything close to a jam with it. Also why would you spend 350 on a sub 500 dollar gun for a trigger job? That sounds a bit out there if you ask me.

You post has a bit of an elitist look to it. I have shot a CZ75 and 85 and while they are nice I would still take the Ruger over them any day. I do agree however that the 75 is a better platform for starting off for competition but head to head stock besides the trigger I don't find anything else to be a great improvement.

That being said I would probably go for something completely different if I was going for competition but all I asked was how to get the trigger down to a crisp weight and feel not to have my gun put down.

I tell you out of the last 3 topics I have started 2 of them have been littered with comments that really contribute nothing to helping me out so why not just save your comments for something you can contribute on instead of just taking jabs at one of the handguns I own that I happen to like shooting.

Edit : I know I appealed to individuals who possibly used this gun for competition (which I am sure someone has) but that does not mean that is my plan. I simply want to know how to make the trigger break under less force and reduce the take away.

You're taking my post personally. I was pointing out that your Ruger is a great pistol, but an accurate, competitive pistol it isn't: you don't see too many people using Ruger P series pistols in competition.

Elitist? Calm down man- I owned one myself and tried to make the gun something it isn't. If you don't want to listen to my experiences, that's your choice, but why ask if you're going to get thin-skinned about the answers?

 

[ndb86]

I have a shadow for IPSC and LOVE it. However i've been looking around for a backup gun and somehow the p94 has caught my eye... not sure why. But if i do buy one I too would want to knowwhat I can do to improve the trigger.

 

[Tragedy]

Trust me and everyone else thats done it, swapping out to a p95 trigger will improve your trigger, its a simple cheap job, if afterwords you dont like it put your factory trigger back in. Everyone thats shot my p89 before and after says it feels like a different gun, easier to shoot. Heres a better link showing the side view of the triggers aswell as the notching that is required. I did NOT remove the lip on mine, i would only remove whats needed for clearance for the lip.

www. rugerforum. com