I'm pretty much a novice when it comes to shooting handguns but it seems like every time I go out my first 3 or 4 shots are bang on and then my groups just seem to open up after that. I only shoot 50-100 (9mm) per outing. Maybe I concentrate more in the beginning and lose interest? Fatigue? Too much of a hurry? I don't dry fire practice at home.
The more I shoot the worse I get
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I have good days and bad days myself, i too consider myself an amature. However, starting threads like this and reading the tips can help. One big tip I got was from another novice shooter, something so simple that i didnt think of, even though i was shooting longer then him. Info comes from all kinds of places.
I'm pretty new to pistols too, and find the same thing.
What I find is, I'll make a conscious effort to get the right grip and trigger finger placement, then it will shift a bit from recoil or whatever.
I stop, and get set again, and all is good.
I think it's just from being a pistol noob. (in my case anyway)
I'm shooting a G22, but just picked up a G17. I'm going to switch to the 9mm for a while and see how that goes.
What I find is, I'll make a conscious effort to get the right grip and trigger finger placement, then it will shift a bit from recoil or whatever.
I stop, and get set again, and all is good.
I think it's just from being a pistol noob. (in my case anyway)
I'm shooting a G22, but just picked up a G17. I'm going to switch to the 9mm for a while and see how that goes.
Grip tape will help alot. I use a G22 RTF2 as well as the Gen 4 G22 but the RTF2 I seem to be more accurate with, i attribute that to the grip, as it doesnt move as much. Glocks other then RTF2 or Gen4s, have no grip at all, you need grip tape imho.
Thanks! I'll give it a try. I picked up a tungsten guide rod for it and a 3.5 pound connector. I just didn't read the part where it said you need a different spring for the guide rod!
Gotta place another order, I guess.
I think the G22 could benefit from a little more weight up front, from my limited experience.
Thanks! I'll give it a try. I picked up a tungsten guide rod for it and a 3.5 pound connector. I just didn't read the part where it said you need a different spring for the guide rod!
Gotta place another order, I guess.
I think the G22 could benefit from a little more weight up front, from my limited experience.
The other thing I was thought in my Black Badge course was, do most of the griping of the gun with your left hand and dont tense your right hand too much, allow your trigger finger to be loose. Thats if your right handed, reverse that if your left handed.
Brutus
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Lots of good advice all through this similar thread.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=701904&highlight=novice&page=3
Pay particular attention to Post #29.
Good luck & don't forget to have fun!
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=701904&highlight=novice&page=3
Pay particular attention to Post #29.
Good luck & don't forget to have fun!
Careful dry practice. As in, absolutely, postively, never let the trigger break unless your sights are perfectly aligned, and your front sight is on target.
Keep your dry practice sessions short. 10 to 15 minutes, and ALWAYS stop if you can't keep your sights aligned, and your sight picture correct, and keep from tripping the trigger unless you have both. Perfect practice makes perfect. Practicing missing - by letting the trigger trip just 'cause - means you will continue to miss for real.
If you want more than 10 to 15 minutes of dry practice a day, have two sessions each day, seperated by a couple of hours, to allow your muscles to rest, and your mental powers to be restored. Shooting is 10% physical technique, and 90% mental.
Dry practice is how you learn to shoot, shooting is how you validate your dry practice.
Keep your dry practice sessions short. 10 to 15 minutes, and ALWAYS stop if you can't keep your sights aligned, and your sight picture correct, and keep from tripping the trigger unless you have both. Perfect practice makes perfect. Practicing missing - by letting the trigger trip just 'cause - means you will continue to miss for real.
If you want more than 10 to 15 minutes of dry practice a day, have two sessions each day, seperated by a couple of hours, to allow your muscles to rest, and your mental powers to be restored. Shooting is 10% physical technique, and 90% mental.
Dry practice is how you learn to shoot, shooting is how you validate your dry practice.
With glocks, with factory sights, with the white U in the back and white dot on the front, whats the correct hold? Once the dot is even with the rear, should the front sight be directly on the bullseye or just under it?
my Glock shoots point of aim (on the bull). @ 25yards I hold over. some of my other guns are 6 oclock hold (pumpkin on a post sight picture)
My Glock is a G17gen4 w factory, non adjustable sights
My Glock is a G17gen4 w factory, non adjustable sights
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Clobbersauras
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If you want to improve you need to become a student of the discipline. Nothing takes the place of professional instruction. Then it's trigger time, through dry fire and range time. YouTube is a good source of tips, but also pay close attention to what CGN members like misanthropist, Slavex, wicked police, and tritium post about handgunning.
mudgunner49
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Get a .22 or a conversion unit for your Glock and start your shooting session out with that then switch to center-fire. Forget all the guide rods/trigger parts etc - that's a hardware solution to a software problem.
Get someone who actually knows how to shoot to coach you. Take professional training. Practice...
blake
Get someone who actually knows how to shoot to coach you. Take professional training. Practice...
blake
There can be a few factors at work. If you can shoot 4 or 5 shots decent before your groups deteriorate then you have the basics down. When the shots start to stray it is likely because you are holding the gun up too long and getting fatigued, losing focus, losing patience and wanting to shoot faster, or second guessing your shooting after a couple of bad shots.
When shooting, particularily when from the bench, bring the gun down and rest it after every shot. Try this for 50 rounds and see if it changes your patterns. Then try pairs, three at a time and then 5 shot groups and see what happens. If you are losing focus try some dot drills or get out of the habit of shooting groups, try something that forces you to focus on each shot, the Twister drill would be good for this. If you are losing patience you have to change up your mind set. Try to shoot two shots touching at say 7m, then three touching, then 5. Make the focus of your practice accuracy, you need to do something to keep your interest in shooting a right group rather then getting bored and whacking the trigger. Try some off a bench rest and pay attention only to how you pull the trigger, or only to how the sight moves in recoil. Lastly if you shots detriorate, especially if you are new it is easy to get frustrated. Chances are after 4 or 5 good shots you shoot one bad one and instead of being happy with the good 4 or 5 you are thinking of the one bad one, if you continue to do this you will never shoot any better ones. Instead if you shoot the start of a decent group and throw a bad one, stop, put the gun down ad look at the decent part of the group, tell yourself that it's a good group and that you are going to put the next one in the Center of it, ignore the bad shot, focus on the good shots and not the bad ones.
Sometimes when developing a new skill you hit a plateau for a while. Practice the fundamentals correctly as everyone has suggested then take a break or concentrate on something else (walk the dog, play with the kids) for a while and when you come back for the next range session, Eureka, suddenly it all comes together.
