What about a petition to make AR's non-restricted?

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Has this been done before? Since it is the country's service rifle it would make sense to have the citizenry familiar with it. Perhaps a very large petition would help sway the Tories. I would have thought they would be able to turn the clock back to pre-FAC times.
 
Teapot said:
Has this been done before? Since it is the country's service rifle it would make sense to have the citizenry familiar with it.
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Problem is, there's a hell of a lot of Canadians who would be pretty terrified by that statement. We can make petitions, and I support them, don't get me wrong, but we need to educate before we can expect such changes to be politically viable.
 
I own a non-restricted RA XCR-L and a -M in the forseeable future = I have absolutely no interest in buying an AR but with that said I will fight with you and not only sign a petition I will hand it in to one of the highest level CPC minister's in Canada for you...

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Organized letter writing campaign would be more effective. its simple to set up an online petition and click a button to "sign". Writing letters shows lots more commitment and helps put a person to the statement.

If the PM had a flood of individual letters all within a short time frame on the same issue it would have more effect then reading names off of a web page.
 
While I support your idea, wouldn't it be better to allow restricted firearms to be used for hunting and shooting outside of a range (basically getting rid of the need for an ATT)? I'd sell my Swiss Arms and buy a high end AR in a heartbeat if I could hunt with one.
 
If you don't buy an AR because they are restricted, you're letting the antis win.

The best way to help along change on this front is for everyone and their dog to buy an AR. It would be harder to prohibit them if there were millions of them owned by the populace, and it would make the argument much more compelling to repeal their existing restriction as well.

We need more guns owned (of all types) and more gun owners in general , if we want to win the war.
 
667 said:
Well then... There ya go.

Gun contro/classification works.
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I don't go to the range and I enjoy taking my rifles out hunting so this would be no good for me. If they become non restricted then I would probably buy 2 and go shooting and hunting with them all the time. Either way I'm in and would support this in full.
 
To the OP, I don't think that angle would work. The only angle with even a slight chance would be to use hunters and sportsmen in the United States (and elsewhere, NZ comes to mind) as an example of why the AR15 should be non-restricted.

If this were to ever get off the ground, make sure you stock up beforehand because if the AR15 ever goes NR the price will likely skyrocket overnight.
 
DaveMachine said:
To the OP, I don't think that angle would work. The only angle with even a slight chance would be to use hunters and sportsmen in the United States (and elsewhere, NZ comes to mind) as an example of why the AR15 should be non-restricted.

If this were to ever get off the ground, make sure you stock up beforehand because if the AR15 ever goes NR the price will likely skyrocket overnight.
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I agree..

and please quit using that pic of my sister as your avatar.
 
Teapot said:
Has this been done before? Since it is the country's service rifle it would make sense to have the citizenry familiar with it. Perhaps a very large petition would help sway the Tories. I would have thought they would be able to turn the clock back to pre-FAC times.
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Can they? Of course they can, they have a majority in parliament and the senate. Any legislation they truly want to pass they can, with no real obstacles.

Will they? Absolutely not. The CPC are not our friends, they are simply less the enemy than the Libs and the NDP. The CPC are no more interested in significantly loosening gun control laws than they are in legalizing pot.


Mark
 
I would sign a petition and fight but I will not own an AR-15 till they are NR. I have no room for a 1000 + rifle in my safe that I can't walk out my door and shoot. I have a Robinson arms xcr-l and will have a M when the OD ones come in. I would much rather have a RRA varmint and a LWRC REPR but such is life.
 
DaveMachine said:
To the OP, I don't think that angle would work. The only angle with even a slight chance would be to use hunters and sportsmen in the United States (and elsewhere, NZ comes to mind) as an example of why the AR15 should be non-restricted.

If this were to ever get off the ground, make sure you stock up beforehand because if the AR15 ever goes NR the price will likely skyrocket overnight.
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I would argue more that it possibly one of the most flexible rifle platforms in existence today.

Take a lower, put a 6.8 SPC upper with 20" lightweight barrel and a 3x9 optic and a squat 5 round magazine, you've got a good hunting rifle.

Take that off, put a 22LR upper with irons on it, you've got yourself a good gopher gun / plinker.

Take that off, swap it for a 20" heavy 223 remington with optic and a LAR 10 round mag, now you've got a varmint rifle that can also happen to compete in service rifle,

Take that off, put in a 24" match grade free floated barrel with a bipod on her with a 5x25 optic and a single shot follower, now it's an F/TR class rifle.



The AR15 makes the one of one best civilian rifles in existence today. There are other rifles that do specific jobs better, other rifles that are cheaper and will do the job, but none that will do as many jobs as a the AR as affordable and as easily.
 
I would not argue against your thoughts they are very true but until the AR's are NR I will not be buying one of them either and it is irrelivant to me how good of platform they are until I can take them out into the bush...

then I would have one in 30RAR and a second upper in 458 SOCOM unless RA comes out with a 458SOCOM conversion kit first...
 
Don't forget that when Colt bought the rights from Armalite, they sold it originally as a sporting rifle to civilians. This was after the AR15 was first rejected by the US Army during bogus (rigged) testing at Aberdeen proving grounds and during Arctic trials in 1958. The AR15 waited on the shelf for two years until General LeMay of the US Air Force ordered 80,000 on the spot for airbase defense after firing one at a 4th of July picnic hosted by the firearms industry.
 
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