I have a proposition

Seems to me that loading and shooting groups for 50 odd rifles in a 2 week period sounds a lot like a full time job. I would think you might want to consider paying some one to do this for you, clearly you can afford it. You make it sound like some kind of dream vacation with all of your 4 wheeled toys, who the heck is going to have any time to enjoy all of the flying and fishing you speak about and get things happening with 50 plus rifles? FS
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rral22 said:
First realistic response.

To genuinely work up the most accurate loads for that many rifles will take a lot of time. I'm currently working on a Ruger #1 .25-06 for a friend, and we are on the 4th bullet and 2nd powder trying to find a perfect combination. Powder charge changes, primer changes, sizing methods, seating depth tests, then try another bullet with all those variables? Then try another powder? We are contemplating stock work at the moment. A true MOA or less load can be quite elusive.

Now, we aren't in a hurry, but I think that gun alone would have taken at least a whole day so far out of the plan. Only 49 more to go. And some of them will be tough enough to shoot that only a few shots at a time will be possible if you are thinking MOA or less from the shooter.

What is being asked can't be done in two weeks. Not by me, anyway, and not properly. Maybe I'm just not good enough. Maybe it's a ridiculous request.
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And you both may feel free NOT to apply for this apparently daunting task.
There's always a couple.............................
 
c-fbmi said:
Seems to me that loading and shooting groups for 50 odd rifles in a 2 week period sounds a lot like a full time job. I would think you might want to consider paying some one to do this for you, clearly you can afford it. You make it sound like some kind of dream vacation with all of your 4 wheeled toys, who the heck is going to have any time to enjoy all of the flying and fishing you speak about and get things happening with 50 plus rifles? FS
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And you both may feel free NOT to apply for this apparently daunting task.
There's always a couple.............................
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You'll notice, I haven't.

Just trying to be a bit realistic. How about attacking the actual argument instead of the people making it? Is it possible to do it well in 2 weeks? How long will it actually take?
 
rral22 said:
You'll notice, I haven't.

Just trying to be a bit realistic. How about attacking the actual argument instead of the people making it? Is it possible to do it well in 2 weeks? How long will it actually take?
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He has opened it up to more than one person... how long it takes depends on how many people go....
 
rral22 said:
First realistic response.

To genuinely work up the most accurate loads for that many rifles will take a lot of time. I'm currently working on a Ruger #1 .25-06 for a friend, and we are on the 4th bullet and 2nd powder trying to find a perfect combination. Powder charge changes, primer changes, sizing methods, seating depth tests, then try another bullet with all those variables? Then try another powder? We are contemplating stock work at the moment. A true MOA or less load can be quite elusive.

Now, we aren't in a hurry, but I think that gun alone would have taken at least a whole day so far out of the plan. Only 49 more to go. And some of them will be tough enough to shoot that only a few shots at a time will be possible if you are thinking MOA or less from the shooter.

What is being asked can't be done in two weeks. Not by me, anyway, and not properly. Maybe I'm just not good enough. Maybe it's a ridiculous request.
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Obviously you require Introduction to Reloading 101. First you practice the KISS (keep it simple stupid) theory. Second choose the bullet, one case, one primer you wish to hunt with and work around it. Utilize 6,7 or 8 different powders (Various burn rates) with increments of powder charges. Once a powder charge is found then play with seating depth.
By utilizing several bullets, primers and seating depths no wonder your all over the map. BTW, I think that the Ruger #1 is a classic firearm, but not noted to be accuarate out of the box.
 
rral22 said:
You'll notice, I haven't.

Just trying to be a bit realistic. How about attacking the actual argument instead of the people making it? Is it possible to do it well in 2 weeks? How long will it actually take?
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If we don't all get done in 2 weeks, then oh well, whatever is done in 2 weeks will be a great help to me and if it leaves a few that need more work, then I'll pick away at them as time permits.

It's about meeting some new friends with similar interests and doing a bunch of shooting and loading over a couple weeks and helping me with my backlog. It is not a "do or die" contract.

You certainly are "the cups half empty" kinda guy, rral22.

Maybe you should come, rral22, and "lighten up", meet some new friends and have some fun in life.
 
Douglas..........just a suggestion to ponder over.
You must have an array of choice optics?
Be interesting to keep a tally of what the shooter's prefer
over the 100 yard plus ranges of optics and
the reasons for it.
Regards.
 
The 5 shot 1/4 minute hunting rifle is an elusive beast that l've been chasing for over 50 years. So far I've been unsuccessful but the chase has been rewarding. I owned a .308 Sako AII some years ago that was an honest 1/2 moa shooter and it did produce the holy grail of 1/4, but only once over years of testing. I bought it used at a Calgary gun show for less than $300.00. It performed its magic with the original barrel and stock. I only bedded the action and tuned the trigger.

c-fbmi is not expecting 1/4 moa performance, only looking for the loads that perform best in his rifles while having some interesting and competent company during the chase. This is a great proposition for anyone who enjoys the load development process. I only wish I could accept.

The following photo shows what can be done with even the larger calibres. This was shot this morning with my .338 Imperial Magnum at 200 yards. These two 3 shot groups measure 0.195 moa and 0.132 moa and indicate that the .22's and 6mm's are not the only calibres capable of great accuracy. Groups shot using my "switch barrel" Barnard P action and a Krieger barrel.
Regards; Aubrey

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c-fbmi said:
You certainly are "the cups half empty" kinda guy, rral22.

Maybe you should come, rral22, and "lighten up", meet some new friends and have some fun in life.
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Just can't help the personal shots, can you.

One thing I don't have to do, is buy my shooting buddies.
 
vviking said:
Holy Cow, Banished .....
Please .... Tell me it's only in the last decade that you've learned to build, tune, load, and shoot that well ..... cause I'm only just the ten years behind you.
Hope springs eternal.
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Actually, now that I think about it, my best load development has been during the last ten years but my competition ability was at its best 30 years ago. Barrels and bullets etc. are better now than they were back then but my eyes are not. When the conditions are ideal, as they were this morning, I do very well but I have difficulty reading wind and mirage changes as well as I once did. The young bucks can beat me out to 1000m but they have to shoot their best to do it. I still love the challenge.

Regards; Aubrey
 
This is one of the most interesting threads on CGN in a long time but I have to say that I'm astounded at the amount of skepticism.
It is an awesome deal and if I possibly could I'd be there in a heartbeat.
Think about it.... whats not to like ?? :)
 
Banished

Previous post I just looked at and commented on the groups then went back to see the cartridge, that ain't no pussy cat you're shooting there. Even more impressive with that kind of recoil.
 
c-fbmi said:
Previous post I just looked at and commented on the groups then went back to see the cartridge, that ain't no pussy cat you're shooting there. Even more impressive with that kind of recoil.
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Yes, the .338 Imperial is a ballistic clone of the .338 Lapua and recoil is an issue. I have a muzzle brake for this one but was testing my tolerance without the brake this morning as I hope to use it in a 500m F-Class competition where brakes are not allowed. So far so good.

Regards; Aubrey
 
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