Why are Glocks so reliable?
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Glock pistols weren't included in any of those tests.
The loose fitting slide when compared to others may very well contribute to the reliability. The simplicity in design as mentioned by Agilent_one and Musky Hunter is definitely a factor.
When you run a gun with 35 parts including the 5 parts in the magazine, it will likely be a more reliable firearm. Do tell, which police force or MIL unit runs Shadows???
I don't know how many rounds your Beretta and Glock had through them or how you ran them, but my experience with Beretta's was poor. Sheared locking lugs nearly monthly and frequent failures to feed. Not to mention the Beretta sports some 70 parts, is over weight, over sized, has a pointless exposed barrel. Some models have fixed front sights, and the safety/decocker is in a poor location.
Stoppages with poor reloads is not valid data, nor are stoppages that occur in heavily/poorly modified guns.
Mostly marketing hype
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I guess all the videos of extreme conditions and the many millons of Glocks in service are just hype too right??
As noted, the Glock was not included in the tests you quote above. The Beretta was awarded the MIL contract in the 80's despite the fact that the SIG clearly won the trials. The willingness of Beretta to establish a US factory is what sealed the deal. There's also rumor that someone in big gov got a nice payoff as well, but that would never happen in gov't.
You say Glocks are relatively cheap, easy to maintain and light weight. So which one of those attributes is a bad thing????
TDC
Id have to agree, Ive never had a Malfunction with any glock ive owned. From the G17 To the G21.
That being said, I never had a Malfunction with any of the Beretta 92fs Ive owned either.
Sorry, I call BS. All information I can find indicates SIG, Glock, or Hk P7.
TDC
It's da heater of da hood , yo!
If I don't have a Glock, will my #### fall off?
Okay, seriously, I love my G34! It's my go-to zombie invasion pistol! Even if I do love fondling my STI 1911 9mm single stack Spartan!
Cheers and thanks for the pics in the first thread. Well done! Super informative!
Barney
If I don't have a Glock, will my #### fall off?
Okay, seriously, I love my G34! It's my go-to zombie invasion
pistol! Even if I do love fondling my STI 1911 9mm single stack Spartan!Cheers and thanks for the pics in the first thread. Well done! Super informative!
Barney
That likely is the last reason not the first. Glock has gradually increased the amount of support under the webbing on their guns after numerous kabooms were reported.
Here are three of their iterations."
Glocks have relatively heavy slides and are susceptible to limp wristing induced jams as noted previously.
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Bob
Interesting, I checked my RTF G22 and the round looks well supported.
Dexter Morgan
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LOL. You call BS? All the information you can find?
I have family living in Germany. I visit there all the time.
Every single cop I have ever seen in any city in Germany had a CZ on his hip.
And that includes all the airport police, and the cops that ride around on bicycles too.
The armed couriers that I have seen in Germany were all packing Berettas.
Walther P99 (Wikipedia quote)
"The pistol is used by the German Police in North Rhine-Westphalia and Rhineland-Palatinate and has been ordered by Bremen, Hamburg and Schleswig-Holstein"
So I guess not ALL cops as you have indicated. I think it's a mix, to say it mostly this or that without true numbers is a little misleading.
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They are not really more reliable, but the company went to great lenght to make people believe so! Lot's or articles were comissioned, cool videos with mud, grit and water were filmed and released. Truth is, Glocks will jam and fail to fire once in a while, just like any other well maintained pistol.
Nope. They wont. Factory ammo, and no limp wristing, they just dont jam. Gen3s anyhow.
Im going by my experience, as Ive owned many Glocks, from Glock 17s, 22s, and 21s. I only shoot factory ammo, and have never had an issue with either Glock. So when Glock gets the hype for being ultra reliable i believe it, as that has been my experience.
Hickok45 has been shooting for 25 plus years, mainly with Glocks, and he will say the same.
I cant pay attention to what i hear on the net, as they maybe using reloads, limp wristing etc... I dont know, i just have to go by my experience, if and when i ever get a Malfunction ill say so, but so far its yet to happen.
Ive owed Beretta92fs as well, and never had any issues with them, they are very reliable as well, would be my second choice after Glock.
The 1911's Ive had would have the odd malfunction when they got dirty, around 400 rounds or so. This is one range session.
As far as other models i dont know as I have not owned them or if i did, have not shot them enough to give an opinion.
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They are also the easiest guns to operate under duress.
Draw, pull trigger, boom.
And guys, lots of anecdotal evidence on Google and such that the looser the fit, the less likely to jam. Ask guys that run super-tight race guns if they could put 20k down the pipe without a stoppage of sorts.
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I've owned most of the wonder 9's and i currently primarily run a Shadow and G17.
The G17 is more reliable. Less problems with extracting / FTF, and stupid mag issues. I've ran one of my G17 with 3k rounds without cleaning. I doubt my shadow could have done the same.
There are lots of small parts in the Shadow that can go wrong and you NEED the spare parts as backup. I got 2-3 full replacement parts for my Glock 17's and i've never needed to use any of the parts. Only thing i change is the recoil spring at 6-8k.
My CZ's i've changed the slide stop, extractor x2, and trigger spring.
The G17 is more reliable. Less problems with extracting / FTF, and stupid mag issues. I've ran one of my G17 with 3k rounds without cleaning. I doubt my shadow could have done the same.
There are lots of small parts in the Shadow that can go wrong and you NEED the spare parts as backup. I got 2-3 full replacement parts for my Glock 17's and i've never needed to use any of the parts. Only thing i change is the recoil spring at 6-8k.
My CZ's i've changed the slide stop, extractor x2, and trigger spring.
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