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John Y Cannuck

John Y Cannuck

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As Hunters, we have pushed for the end of the LGR. That's almost accomplished as I write this.

But we still need your support. Handgun, and restricted issues for example, will be harder than the LGR to push through.

I know, many of you don't give a flying crap about handguns, but look at it this way, a firearm is a firearm. If they ban one they move to the next. We need to reverse that.
So how about helping out the sports shooters, black rifle/shotgun guys, handgunners etc?

Support the return of handgun hunting would be a good start, and I don't care if you don't intend ever to do it.

Once something like that is permitted, they lose the argument that handguns can only be used for punching paper.

Then there is the issue of all those 12.X guys, with guns that will be confiscated eventually.

How about the re-classification issue? The RCMP are re-classifying guns as restricted, in many cases, just by appearance it seems.

What if they decide to re-classify all semis?

Stand together, or fall together.
 
As sweatheart mentioned in other posts .......

We needs to work together and needs to cover more grounds . LGR is " Just a Good Start ".
ATT's and lot other can be removed with less pain as they are just regulations not The Law .

So without wasting time , go for it . The time is now - Biggs
 
John Y Cannuck said:
As Hunters, we have pushed for the end of the LGR. That's almost accomplished as I write this.

But we still need your support. Handgun, and restricted issues for example, will be harder than the LGR to push through.

I know, many of you don't give a flying crap about handguns, but look at it this way, a firearm is a firearm. If they ban one they move to the next. We need to reverse that.
So how about helping out the sports shooters, black rifle/shotgun guys, handgunners etc?

Support the return of handgun hunting would be a good start, and I don't care if you don't intend ever to do it.

Once something like that is permitted, they lose the argument that handguns can only be used for punching paper.

Then there is the issue of all those 12.X guys, with guns that will be confiscated eventually.

How about the re-classification issue? The RCMP are re-classifying guns as restricted, in many cases, just by appearance it seems.

What if they decide to re-classify all semis?

Stand together, or fall together.
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:agree: Couldn't agree with you more.
 
Any proposals? I want to know how i can be on board? Being that I live in BC and most political battles occur in Ontario or Quebec what can I do to help... For now I do my best to invite new shooters out for the day to get them involved and hooked :)
 
IMO ATT's are the logical step. They make absolutely NO sense and do nothing more than create unneeded civil jobs; further those civil jobs created do absolutely nothing save shuffle redundant paperwork back and forth, under threat of prosecution.

Meets my definition of insanity. Not to mention flushing money just for the sake of hearing the flush.
 
I think the best next step would be to have the AR 15 classed as a non restricted rifle. I believe that every Canadian should not only be allowed to own and use Canada's service rifle but it should be encouraged. I will be writing my letters as soon as the lgr falls. I will stand by all firearm owners, no matter how ugly their guns are. ;)
 
John Y Cannuck said:
As Hunters, we have pushed for the end of the LGR. That's almost accomplished as I write this.

But we still need your support. Handgun, and restricted issues for example, will be harder than the LGR to push through.

I know, many of you don't give a flying crap about handguns, but look at it this way, a firearm is a firearm. If they ban one they move to the next. We need to reverse that.
So how about helping out the sports shooters, black rifle/shotgun guys, handgunners etc?

Support the return of handgun hunting would be a good start, and I don't care if you don't intend ever to do it.

Once something like that is permitted, they lose the argument that handguns can only be used for punching paper.

Then there is the issue of all those 12.X guys, with guns that will be confiscated eventually.

How about the re-classification issue? The RCMP are re-classifying guns as restricted, in many cases, just by appearance it seems.

What if they decide to re-classify all semis?

Stand together, or fall together.
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Great post and I love the fact that you posted in the hunting forum. I've heard too many long gun owners say that they don't care about any other issue other than hunting firearms. Hopefully some will read this post and realize that we are a firearms "Community",and anything that affects any firearm affects alll of us.
 
Best plan at the moment, is to talk to the guys, and convince them.

If you're a hunter, go try handguns, black guns etc. It's damned good practice, and a lot of fun.

If you've never tried handgun, your ego will take a beating the first time you try for one of those rifle sized groups.

Excellent training for concentration, and trigger pull.

But more than that, we need them to support us, the same way we all worked together on the registry, never let an anti spew gibberish, put him down with facts.
Educate the masses, and the politicians and the laws will follow, or fall as the case may be.
 
In this battle, there is no hand gun, no long gun, no tacticool. Only firearms. We are in this together regardless of discipline of choice.
 
John Y Cannuck said:
Att's are worthless paperwork
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Agreed....

My thoughts on it, though, are that eliminating them is a first step towards handgun hunting.....

Technically it is perfectly legal to hunt with a handgun here in ontario.... but the CFO will never allow you to get an ATT to your local hunting spot.....

Also, eliminating ATT would be a big step in gun owner's rights just based on the fact that we will no longer have to tell them where and when we are going with our guns that we already had to jump through hoops to get... even more hoops than regular long guns....

Likin' you idea Johnny
 
I think your only hope for success is to try and get semi-automatic rifles reclassified from restricted to non-restricted on a case by case basis until there are few if any left in the restricted class.

Since this is more of an administrative then legislative task the government would not be subjecting itself to public recriminations and may be more willing to work with you. Would also let them throw up their hands and say "wasn't us" if there is another school shooting incident
 
ATCs for everyone, except pinko commies, terrorists, criminals or gangbangers. That probably covers NDP's as well.
 
KDX said:
ATCs for everyone, except pinko commies, terrorists, criminals or gangbangers. That probably covers NDP's as well.
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Anyone with an unregistered gun is a xriminal. A criminal record ought not to equal a firearms prohibition.
 
Together

Superbrad said:
I personally think the first step is eliminating the att.... I am willing to stand woth other gun owners... no matter what our next cause is....
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Where is OFAH ...why aren't they more vocal. They are a legitimate Voice of gun owners ( i.e hunters) . If you want to push for handgun hunting let them speak for us.
 
Gymbo said:
Where is OFAH ...why aren't they more vocal. They are a legitimate Voice of gun owners ( i.e hunters) . If you want to push for handgun hunting let them speak for us.
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OFAH is for hunters rights... you can easily hunt without a handgun... I am sure OFAH is all for the cause but they choose their battles carefully... and rightfully so..... they are a great organization....

We need an organization to champion this that is not the OFAH.... once they get close the OFAH will jump aboard and tip the scales....
 
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