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mosinmaster

mosinmaster

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Hello boys,

I have a problem with the rear barrel band on my 336RC. I can't seem to get the screw to pass through to the other side so the threads engage and lock the band down. I was struggling with it for over an hour trying to get it in, and I have come to the conclusion that the holes on each side of the barrel band are not in-line with one another, just by a bit, but enough that a bit of the screw gets stuck on the other side so it cannot be screwed down tight.

What do you guys recommend? I tried making the hole bigger by hammering the screw in but not much changed, then I tried to use a screw of similar diameter to open up the hole on the other side. It's frustrating, and I'm running out of ideas.
 
The holes aren't aligned.. I took off the mag tube and tried the screw through the two holes and it wouldn't work. Both sides too.

I think Marlin aligned the holes incorrectly. This is 1981.. so no Remlin blaming :(
 
mosinmaster said:
The holes aren't aligned.. I took off the mag tube and tried the screw through the two holes and it wouldn't work. Both sides too.

I think Marlin aligned the holes incorrectly. This is 1981.. so no Remlin blaming :(
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I own 2 marlin rifles from that era. First in the .375 win lever. Couldnt hit a broad side of a barn. Private dealer wouldnt take the gun back. Said he fixed it. Yeah, righ. Rear sight was on the side of the barrel after he was done. I was in my teens and didnt know better. Dad sent it away to Marlin and they determined the barrel was screwed in too tight. Fixed it and its been working great since. All 2 boxes of ammo Ive ever put through it.

Second my uncle gave me his 39 lever .22 Said it ALWAYS jammed on him. Happened to me within 5 shots. Took it too a smith and the timing gears inside were all out of whack. He fixed it and now it works good. Not as smooth as it should or like my winchester 9422, but good non the less.

Im a believer that Marlins quality control SUCKED in the 1980-1982 as these were the years of manufacturer of my guns.
 
Well, I can't say that the function or accuracy of my gun sucks, it's just the barrel band which can be replaced or a smith can fix. Just frustrating since I should be able to do this on my own.
 
Is everything original?
Was it together when you got it?
What do you see when you look through the holes with a light?
Is the Foreend loose?
Does the bolt look right when the band is off the gun?
 
Gun was perfect when I got it. I just took it apart today to do a complete clean and look-over since I got it, and installed my Skinner sight.

The hole is aligned, except for the other side of the barrel band. Removing the mag tube confirms the alignment when putting the screw through it. The screw wasn't buggered.. now it is after I screwed around with it. No worries, I'll just replace it with one with a swivel stud as I don't like the mag tube clamp ones anyways.
 
mosinmaster said:
I tried opening up the other side a bit last night, still need to remove some more material though to get it through.
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Did you try anything else?

Seem weird that it was on fine and now it needs to be modified...


When you look at the muzzle end are the barrel and mag tube lined up vertically or is it twisted at all?

It sounds like it's twisted and the grooves in the barrel and magtube aren't lining up anymore with your band.

You could also try to line everything up with a slave punch made from something that is just smaller then the tread diameter......a drill bit possibly.

It sounds like you are modifing the other side of the barrel band? I'd be thinking about moding the grooves between the barrel and the mag tube if I couldn't just loosen up the works and get it to go first.
 
It may be that the screw is not aligned as well, which could be very well the case. I've decided that the screw is too buggered to go forward with it, and I'm just going to find a replacement with a sling stud. The grooves should align as the hole is pretty perfect, and the forward band aligns.
 
mosinmaster said:
Gun was perfect when I got it. I just took it apart today to do a complete clean and look-over since I got it, and installed my Skinner sight.

The hole is aligned, except for the other side of the barrel band. Removing the mag tube confirms the alignment when putting the screw through it. The screw wasn't buggered.. now it is after I screwed around with it. No worries, I'll just replace it with one with a swivel stud as I don't like the mag tube clamp ones anyways.
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"It was perfect when I got it. I just took it apart."
Famous last words!
Therefore, there is nothing, whatsoever. wrong with the rifle. You just can't get it lined up properly to put back together. Those old Marlins are precise, and very well fitting. Bear in mind that when you had the cap off, you may have bent it a bit, preventing the holes from lining up.
 
I have spent hours on Marlin 336 and Winchester 94 rear barrel bands. It seems that they are bent or misaligned on purpose to add tension to the band. In reality the band cannot be compressed enough by that little screw to add tension any other way. My 336 screw is acutally a pin with 2 threads at the driver end. I can't help much other than keep messin with it until it links up.

Darryl
 
The weird thing about this all is that I never moved the barrel band or forearm off the rifle as they were stuck in place and I didn't want to force it. I just took the screw out, hence it should have just popped back in.
 
They are a pretty tight fit, but they do fit.
Recoil had bent the screw on mine, and I just straightened
it with a hammer on the anvil of my vice. Recoil had also mushroomed
the lip of the slot in the mag tube.

Seeing as you have the screw out, and can't get it back in,you
might as well take it right down. Then you can make sure the
mag tube is all the way in, and the forearm is all the way into
the receiver. The spring inside the tube will try to push the tube
forward, making it hard to line up the slot with the holes.
Taking the screw, end plug, spring and follower out will make it
a bit easier to line up.

And make sure the screw is going in from the correct side.
You can spend a good bit of time arguing with it before you
realise the threads are at the head end :redface:
 
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