ultimate_monkey
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- victoria BC
i have a breif review of my trr-sr here
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=626903
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=626903
budget 22lr pr trainer
- Thread starter Jamie
- Start date
Haven't seen any here yet but....
CZ 455 varmint precision trainer:
MCS-T4 Manners Composite stock on this one. Looks good to me.
The Savage TR looks good too. I'm not a fan of the version with the cheesy tri rail. That looks like garbage and I've read it is more trouble than it's worth.
CZ 455 varmint precision trainer:
MCS-T4 Manners Composite stock on this one. Looks good to me.
The Savage TR looks good too. I'm not a fan of the version with the cheesy tri rail. That looks like garbage and I've read it is more trouble than it's worth.
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You don't see too many of these around, but it should qualify.
Kimber SVT
The old 10/22 makes a pretty good trainer. Not bolt action but seems to shoot the cheap 38 American Eagle ammo up there with a tactical bolt action.
Any Walther. These are various KKJ-T and KKJ being the last one has a magazine. I also have a running boar which is very nice. Heavy barrel, super trigger and cool adjustable stock.
Annie 54 is also the old standby. Mosberb 144 LSB (my LS has a crappy trigger though) are decent shooters. Russian CM2 or newer Ural and newest variants.
Tons and tons of choices. Good luck just choosing 1. It's as addictive as the AR habit.
Kimber SVT
The old 10/22 makes a pretty good trainer. Not bolt action but seems to shoot the cheap 38 American Eagle ammo up there with a tactical bolt action.
Any Walther. These are various KKJ-T and KKJ being the last one has a magazine. I also have a running boar which is very nice. Heavy barrel, super trigger and cool adjustable stock.
Annie 54 is also the old standby. Mosberb 144 LSB (my LS has a crappy trigger though) are decent shooters. Russian CM2 or newer Ural and newest variants.
Tons and tons of choices. Good luck just choosing 1. It's as addictive as the AR habit.
A good rimfire as a trainer is always a good thing. If you can get one with a similar trigger and stock is a definite bonus. I went with a CZ 452 varmint, i don`t care for Savages "accutrigger". Any way you look at it an accurate rifle whatever make is never a bad thing.
precision_lee
CGN Regular
- Location
- ottawa valley
I have 2 old ex-military anschultz biathalon stocks, I'm currently trying to get a 223 and a 22lr in the same weight range to make a LR varmint and a mid range plinker/trainer. the stocks are the ones with a deep forend and the mag slots in the bottom of the stock, i think they were for an 1827 action.....my old lady figures she won't see me come out of the shop for years now lol
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
Bushnell Trophy 4-12 w/AO
Yeah, I seriously couldn't ask for more out of a $250 gun, and a $150 scope.
I haven't had it out to 100m too often as wind conditions haven't been ideal over the winter.
Hoping to get out a lot this summer and put her to the test with some match stuff though.
Also thinking about upgrading the stock in the near future, as well as a bedding job. Lots of options out there.
That's the beuty of the MKII, you can spend next to nothing, or kit it out with some serious glass, and a nice stock, all depends what you wanna do.
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
Thanks for the link Mark.
Here is my toy
This last group at 200yds.
Works for me... SK rifle match ammo. Sightron SII Big Sky 36X but have switched to SIII6-24X50 LRMOA to match my SIII10-50X60 LRIRMOA on my FTR rig.
Jerry
Here is my toy
This last group at 200yds.
Works for me... SK rifle match ammo. Sightron SII Big Sky 36X but have switched to SIII6-24X50 LRMOA to match my SIII10-50X60 LRIRMOA on my FTR rig.
Jerry
First target is 50 rounds of CCI Mini Mags at 50 yds through my 10/22, a few flyers, my goal was to try and punch the center spot out (just like the red star on the card at the fair)
This target was set up at the same spot, same distance, 6 months earlier as I was sighting in for the chicken season using the CCI Stingers when this fellow landed on my target....needless to say I only missed one chicken last season
This target was set up at the same spot, same distance, 6 months earlier as I was sighting in for the chicken season using the CCI Stingers when this fellow landed on my target....needless to say I only missed one chicken last season
Nice!
I will chime in, if you are picking up a gun as a trainer for f-class it does not have to be superduper accurate. One moa is fine and many production guns can do that.
So at 300 yards your savage could be getting a 3 inch group and your anshultz might be getting 1.5 inches. However wind will push either bullet over my nearly 4 inches per one mile an hour. So mechanical accuracy causes a 1.5 inch change in point of impact, but a 2 MPH error in estimating the wind causes a 8 inch change in point of impact.
High end guns are great for shooting small groups at short distances. They can shoot slightly better at extended range, but mechanical accuracy is less important than reading the conditions at extended range.
Personally I am shooting a toz 8 which I have installed a rail so that I can swap my sightron 8x32x56 with my f-class gun easily. My TOZ cost 99$ from epps and shoots a bit under a minute, which is fine for my purposes.
Also I see the low ballistic coefficient of the 22 lr as an advantage. It allows cheap long range practice at relatively short ranges. I do not have ready access to a 900 Meter range and even if I did, plinking at that range is quite a bit more involved then plinking at 300 yards.
So at 300 yards your savage could be getting a 3 inch group and your anshultz might be getting 1.5 inches. However wind will push either bullet over my nearly 4 inches per one mile an hour. So mechanical accuracy causes a 1.5 inch change in point of impact, but a 2 MPH error in estimating the wind causes a 8 inch change in point of impact.
High end guns are great for shooting small groups at short distances. They can shoot slightly better at extended range, but mechanical accuracy is less important than reading the conditions at extended range.
Personally I am shooting a toz 8 which I have installed a rail so that I can swap my sightron 8x32x56 with my f-class gun easily. My TOZ cost 99$ from epps and shoots a bit under a minute, which is fine for my purposes.
Also I see the low ballistic coefficient of the 22 lr as an advantage. It allows cheap long range practice at relatively short ranges. I do not have ready access to a 900 Meter range and even if I did, plinking at that range is quite a bit more involved then plinking at 300 yards.
Rocket Surgery
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I have a Savage Mk II f and it's great, cost me $199.99
With Blazer it can do 1-2 inches @ 100y although I find you have to clean it regularly, after 750 rounds 2 inch groups are the norm but about 50 rounds after a cleaning it usually prints around 1.25 inches. You're going to get flyers, it's just the nature of using bulk ammo. With match ammo I find it's not more accurate, just more consistent.
With Blazer it can do 1-2 inches @ 100y although I find you have to clean it regularly, after 750 rounds 2 inch groups are the norm but about 50 rounds after a cleaning it usually prints around 1.25 inches. You're going to get flyers, it's just the nature of using bulk ammo. With match ammo I find it's not more accurate, just more consistent.
