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My CZ Kadet has adjustable rear sights, up, down, right, left. I was trying to adjust them today and was getting nowhere. Should I just move the dial to all the way down and then adjust up accordingly? As far as the left and right goes I can just keep it in the centre and make minute adjustments.
One reason that I thing I was having such trouble with it as well, I noticed when I got home that the barrel is quite leaded up. To the point where I can see lead on the barrel crown. So I will definitely give it a good cleaning.
I was trying to sight in at 7 yards. And before you guys get going, yes I can shoot. I do fine with the fixed Glock sights on my ISSC m22 and the sights on my Shadow. LOL
 
You don't really describe what you mean when you say you are getting nowhere with adjusting the sights.
But, as pure speculation, if you are shooting at 7 yards, you may not be moving enough clicks to make any difference. Most adjustable sights are set to move a half inch or so at 25 yards. At seven yards that would be about a .15 inch difference per click. If you are not grouping in one hole, you won't notice. If the sights are designed to move a .25 inch at 25 yards, it is even more minute!
So what is the problem when you move your sights? How many clicks are you moving them?
 
The ONLY way IMO to really get your adjustable sights on the Kadet in shape is to "BAG" your gun on a bench where you have a consistent hold and firm placement. Have someone beside you with a spotting scope at say 20 yards, have them not talk to you but watch, shoot/aim dead center do 3-4 shots in a row without moving and keep consistent. Then stop have your "viewer" report to you where the group is that you just shot. Make your vertical adjustment, now do same again, then ask. After you have accomplished your vertical, same on the horizontal and you'll eventually get your groups where you want them. Remember whatever ammo you use will be what it's sighted in for, other brands, and weights can and will vary alot in a .22 pistol.

Standing up, 5-7-10 yards on a .22 and adj sights is not likely going to work, it is MUCH easier on a bench and bagged to do adj sights on handguns IMO. Each to their own but this is how I truly evaluate if a handguns sights are on or not, often it is the shooter not the gun, but you can prove out or adjust by this method for certain.
 
If it leaded up the barrel then all bets are off sights wise. You need to switch to some ammo that doesn't lead the barrel and THEN work on adjusting the sights.
 
OICU812 said:
The ONLY way IMO to really get your adjustable sights on the Kadet in shape is to "BAG" your gun on a bench where you have a consistent hold and firm placement. Have someone beside you with a spotting scope at say 20 yards, have them not talk to you but watch, shoot/aim dead center do 3-4 shots in a row without moving and keep consistent. Then stop have your "viewer" report to you where the group is that you just shot. Make your vertical adjustment, now do same again, then ask. After you have accomplished your vertical, same on the horizontal and you'll eventually get your groups where you want them. Remember whatever ammo you use will be what it's sighted in for, other brands, and weights can and will vary alot in a .22 pistol.

Standing up, 5-7-10 yards on a .22 and adj sights is not likely going to work, it is MUCH easier on a bench and bagged to do adj sights on handguns IMO. Each to their own but this is how I truly evaluate if a handguns sights are on or not, often it is the shooter not the gun, but you can prove out or adjust by this method for certain.
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Thanks...sounds like a good idea. I cleaned it today and it was leaded up really bad. I have never seen that before. I need to keep a watch on that. Was just using cheap bulk ammo.
 
Beegwally said:
Thanks...sounds like a good idea. I cleaned it today and it was leaded up really bad. I have never seen that before. I need to keep a watch on that. Was just using cheap bulk ammo.
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There may be some machining burrs on the rifling. If that's what is picking up the lead they should burnish out soon. In the meantime keep running a brush and cleaning patches down it following each range session for a while.

If it's like a couple of the new handguns I've had you'll know when the burrs are gone because the groups will tighten up and likely even shift where they center by a little. Once you get it shooting like that you'll likely find that it doesn't lead up the bore much at all.
 
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