Can I get my RPAL if my dad is in jail?

Evan14

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My dad is in jail...for murder actually, so I am assuming it is safe to say that i could not obtain my RPAL right? or does stuff like that not contribute to it? Thanks for the input
 
Interesting question!

Wow. I'm not sure to be honest, but I would think that it would have no bearing on your application. So long as your record is clean, and you have the right references and so forth, I can't see why you wouldn't be good to go?
 
In Canada, we are not supposed to be judged by our predecessors. While it may be true that the apple does not fall far from the tree, we're not supposed to assume it.

Provided that he remains in custody, your Dad's current situation will have little or no bearing on your PAL application.

What would have a bearing on it would be current (suspected) criminal activity, a current criminal association, or co-habitation with someone who currently is under court conditions and/or a weapons prohibition.
 
The CFC may be interested in the cirumstances surrounding the instance, however I don't see them not approving your RPAL application if you are upfront and honest with any questions they have for you- regarding the instance or not.
 
sweet, right on, because i was super worried about that, especially since its not like he was a father I never saw. I lived with him actually until this happened so i`m glad to hear I shouldn`t be judged based off his action. Will I be anyways though is a totally other question...people are people afterall and most are judgemental.
 
The thing i thought would screw me is that it was not some accident or some guy in a barfight, it was my stepmother, so that is a pretty serious issue, i myself and completely level headed and actually the complete opposite of my father but i was wondering if maybe the powers that be woud deem me to psychologically unstable to be responsible with a firearm
 
And they very well may.

But in such a case, it wouldn't be your father's conviction that was the concern.

Should your application for a PAL be refused, you can appeal the decision, and you are entitled to a hearing where the CFO would have to argue his case (for refusal) before a Judge.

References to Provincial Court Judge
<http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11.6/page-21.html#h-24>
 
Evan14 said:
The thing i thought would screw me is that it was not some accident or some guy in a barfight, it was my stepmother, so that is a pretty serious issue, i myself and completely level headed and actually the complete opposite of my father but i was wondering if maybe the powers that be woud deem me to psychologically unstable to be responsible with a firearm
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I just went through the RPAL process myself. First off, I don't really believe they check things all that thoroughly. You have to say whether you have any history of mental health issues, or any criminal record, and so on. There is nowhere on the form where you tick off "related to a murderer yes/no" and I don't think they investigate thoroughly enough to find that. I think they just lookup whether there are any records relating to you yourself. If you can honestly answer no to those questions then I really doubt the RCMP will figure out who your dad is, so I don't think it would prevent your application.

If they do figure it out then my guess is the key is how long ago was it? If it happened in the last two years they might question whether it's still likely to have some sort of an emotional effect on you (and honestly, it would emotionally affect me!!!)

If this is an event that happened a long time ago and you have a clean mental health and criminal record then I really can't see how it would stop your application.
 
Did you kill anyone? No. End of story. Same analogy as vehicles registered to a spouse or child of a convicted drunk driver. They do not have to serve the same sentence or conditions as the offender.

Safe storage, unauthorized access to firearms, and shared residences, those are other questions.
 
You are not responsible for your father's actions ! Why would you have to pay for something someone else did ?

Do what you need to do to get your license and have fun shooting !
 
Evan14 said:
My dad is in jail...for murder actually, so I am assuming it is safe to say that i could not obtain my RPAL right? or does stuff like that not contribute to it? Thanks for the input
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Sorry to hear of your family situation.
 
i know its not a question on the application and i know im not supposed to be punished for his actions, but the sad reality is that people judge so i was wondering if it did come up for some reason then in your experience would it have an effect. By the looks of things the answer is no! so woo hoo, i can't wait to apply! Thanks guys
 
McMan said:
Sorry to hear of your family situation.
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Same here Evan14.. that's a lot to swallow. Sounds like you've moved on though. Welcome.

If you share your fathers name it'll be delayed. You'll likely be asked about it. I do recall another CGN member who was involved in a fatal accidental discharge when he was a minor. The details escape me, but as I recall he was successful in obtaining his PAL.

Your final answer will come with a call to the CFC. Explain you want to apply, why you want a license (they'll ask), and ask if there's any reason you'd be denied. Make sure you have 2 friends that have known you for 2 years that can vouch for you and that they know of your situation.

Good luck!
 
yea we share a name and this just happened in january so the ordeal is not over by any means. I don't know the details but word is he's going to be a lifer.
 
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