F/A BCG's - any in stock anywhere?

VanIsler said:
The Norinco comes with a FA carrier? If so Colt should burn to the ground for treating customers like s**t while the chicoms aren't.
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Yes they do.
But it seems that NEA also will start selling there BCG seperatly too so that should be a good thing. Unless I miss read there statement posted above.
 
Satain said:
Yes they do.
But it seems that NEA also will start selling there BCG seperatly too so that should be a good thing. Unless I miss read there statement posted above.
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mine came with an enhanced ar15 carrier, not a FA
 
Satain said:
Yes they do.
But it seems that NEA also will start selling there BCG seperatly too so that should be a good thing. Unless I miss read there statement posted above.
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Yes a good thing. Sad that we can only buy M4 clones from commies? Wtf happened to the world?
 
VanIsler said:
Enhanced as in 3 gas holes?
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enhanced as in weight between SA and FA.
might not be the appropriate term, but it's the only one I have heard

From left to right:
SA, enhanced, FA

carriers.jpg
 
chemo said:
enhanced as in weight between SA and FA.
might not be the appropriate term, but it's the only one I have heard

From left to right:
SA, enhanced, FA

carriers.jpg
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Pretty sure your term is right just different than what LMT defines as enhanced. Thanks for the pic, clarifies everything. :cheers:
 
Questar has LMT's. They are S/A, but they look like they have a bit of extra meat at the back. Kind of like the 'Enhanced' in the pic above.

I'm just going by looks. Call Questar and find out. Maybe they have something in stock not on the website.
 
buckbrush said:
What is the advantage of a full auto bolt carrier group?
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They are stronger. If you look at the picture in the previous post you can see the extra material on the carrier. The only carriers you should avoid are the ones that expose the firing pin collars as you can see in the left most carrier in the picture.

They are also heavier and will cycle slightly slower which is less stressful on the firearm. It really isn't an issue for most semi-auto firearms though. It is for full auto firearms as you don't want them to cycle too quickly.
 
buckbrush said:
What is the advantage of a full auto bolt carrier group?
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Heavier carrier's extra mass will increase the dwell time ( before carrier travels back far enough to unlock the bolt. This allows more time for the case pressure to drop before being extracted )

Some SA carriers such as Youngs NM semis are as heavy as some FA carriers

The reason material is removed is so it cannot trip auto sear as bolt goes back into battery ( auto sear catches hammer when M16 disconnector's tail is pushed down by FA position of selector ) . The back end ( the part that is machined away in SA ) of the carrier trips the auto sear as bolt is moving forward. Hammer will never fall again with SA carrier in FA rifle

Add on such as Tubbs Carrier Weight System also add mass to carrier

LMT Enhanced carriers are a whole different story . Some compaines ( Youngs Light, JP Rifle's Low Mass ) offer lightweight carriers as well

I don't think most applications would benifit from the FA carrier ...other than cool factor

I wouldn't go out of your way to replace an existing SA carrier with a FA carrier.
 
TRG-42 said:
Heavier carrier's extra mass will increase the dwell time ( before carrier travels back far enough to unlock the bolt. This allows more time for the case pressure to drop before being extracted )

Some SA carriers such as Youngs NM semis are as heavy as some FA carriers

The reason material is removed is so it cannot trip auto sear as bolt goes back into battery ( auto sear catches hammer when M16 disconnector's tail is pushed down by FA position of selector ) . The back end ( the part that is machined away in SA ) of the carrier trips the auto sear as bolt is moving forward. Hammer will never fall again with SA carrier in FA rifle

Add on such as Tubbs Carrier Weight System also add mass to carrier

LMT Enhanced carriers are a whole different story . Some compaines ( Youngs Light, JP Rifle's Low Mass ) offer lightweight carriers as well

I don't think most applications would benifit from the FA carrier ...other than cool factor

I wouldn't go out of your way to replace an existing SA carrier with a FA carrier.
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Well I would say I almost agree except for the fact if you like to run a shorty barrel set-up or really hot rounds then the FA or Enhanced BCG shines.
 
VanIsler said:
They are stronger. If you look at the picture in the previous post you can see the extra material on the carrier. The only carriers you should avoid are the ones that expose the firing pin collars as you can see in the left most carrier in the picture.

They are also heavier and will cycle slightly slower which is less stressful on the firearm. It really isn't an issue for most semi-auto firearms though. It is for full auto firearms as you don't want them to cycle too quickly.
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Milling the sear trip portion of the carrier does not reduce its functional strength. It rides straight back and forth. The trip area of a FA carrier does not increase its functional strength.

The difference in weight between an enhanced, current SA Carrier vs a current FA carrier is measured in grams, whereas the differences in weight between buffers, which move in tandem with the carrier, is in ounces. If someone wants to change the weight of the moving mass of BCG and Buffer, the buffer is the place to look.

It makes no difference to function, performance or bolt life. Sounds cooler to say maybe?

I can never understand how people willingly pay more for a FA BCG because it is FA. If anything, the SA carrier takes another couple seconds to manufacture. I know people who have purchased inferior brands of bolts (when I say inferior, I mean their bolts and bolt hardware break quicker than some other brands), because it came with a FA carrier. Boggles the mind. The carrier is not what breaks. Buy a good unit from a known manufacturer.

Then there are other companies selling lightened carriers, and other people extolling the virtues there.

If someones rifle isn't cycling properly, the difference in weight between a FA and a SA carrier, won't be the cure.

FWIW: We sell both.
 
dangertree said:
Milling the sear trip portion of the carrier does not reduce its functional strength. It rides straight back and forth. The trip area of a FA carrier does not increase its functional strength.

The difference in weight between an enhanced, current SA Carrier vs a current FA carrier is measured in grams, whereas the differences in weight between buffers, which move in tandem with the carrier, is in ounces. If someone wants to change the weight of the moving mass of BCG and Buffer, the buffer is the place to look.

It makes no difference to function, performance or bolt life. Sounds cooler to say maybe?

I can never understand how people willingly pay more for a FA BCG because it is FA. If anything, the SA carrier takes another couple seconds to manufacture. I know people who have purchased inferior brands of bolts (when I say inferior, I mean their bolts and bolt hardware break quicker than some other brands), because it came with a FA carrier. Boggles the mind. The carrier is not what breaks. Buy a good unit from a known manufacturer.

Then there are other companies selling lightened carriers, and other people extolling the virtues there.

If someones rifle isn't cycling properly, the difference in weight between a FA and a SA carrier, won't be the cure.

FWIW: We sell both.
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Great post!
 
Satain said:
Well I would say I almost agree except for the fact if you like to run a shorty barrel set-up or really hot rounds then the HEAVY OR EXTRA HEAVY BUFFER shines.
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Edited to agree. (and cause no one sells the old Colt 'half-moon' carriers anymore).

We expect Armorers to match the buffer to the ammo in use.
For example, I always run the H2 with Mk262, etc. With lighter 223, I'll usually use a carbine or H buffer, whichever is more comfortable. A H2 buffer is too heavy to reliably cycle light 223 ammo on a shorty, particularly a new one with a freshly sized gas port (they get bigger as the thousands of rounds pile on). I would challenge anyone to notice the difference in firing a enhanced SA vs a FA carrier, (grams) whereas changing the buffer (ounces) provides a noticeable difference in pulse and action speed that anyone could notice.
 
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