No FN 49's ... WHY?

Dantforth said:
I just did a search here trying to locate any info about this rifle. It seems strange to me that I cannot get any hits. Are these rifles that scarce? Any opinions??? Dave
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kay, if you don't get what you want with your first search - make sure you click the clickie thing for one week and OLDER on the next one...

Scarce? Kind of. They weren't imported in huge numbers to begin with and they're not quite idiot proof so more than a few have been lost to poor cleaning habits and lack of spare parts.

I have owned four, I liked the 7x57 Venezuelan best.

I let mine go as they went up pretty dramatically in value and there was other stuff I wanted more.

The 8mm is the easiest to get into. 7mm versions pop up every so often but a nice one will probably run you North of $900 now. The last 30-06 rifles I saw for sale was through John's personal sell off through Marstar. Doubt you could get one for less than a grand now.
 
gaff said:
try the main battle rifle section , not milsurp
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Might be right, but the rifles you'll see over there will have been cut back to "Scout" length and will be wearing at least one tri-rail. Not sure but there might be a flashlight requirement as well. Does Sage make a stock for the FN49? Hrmmm. I wonder if I'll need a popsicle stick....

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I picked my 7x57 Venezuelan up for $350 not much wrong with it other then it was miss matched myself i see 8mm and 30-06 go for around $600-$800 there were 2 8mm snipers that sold for $1200 each awhile back i don't think the prices are too too bad yet for the FN 49 what i really want to get my hands on is a 7.62 model of the FN49 with some extra mags but looks to me they are all in the US.
 
FN-49 was never made in the modern 7.62mm. The 7.62mm FN-49s all were .30-'06, which the Europeans insist on calling 7.62x63.

A VERY few were made in 7.65x53 for Argentina but these are very close to nonexistant. Argentina disposed of these mostly in unfired condition and got more in .30-'06. The 7.65mm variant is not even listed as having been manufactured, although I once saw 12 of them on a rack, couldn't afford one.

Total production of the FN-49 was only about 160,000 units, of which 80,000 were 8mm rifles for Egypt. That's half of them.The rest were divided between the Venezulan 7x57 contract, a very few 7.65mms and the rest all were in .30-'06 and comprise rifles made for several countries.

NO FN-49 is exactly common.

WHY would you want extra Magazines for an FN-49???????????????????? The Magazine holds exactly ZERO rounds of ammunition when it is detached from the Rifle. It only will hold a cartridge at all when it is fixed onto the rifle. The FEED LIPS are in the RIFLE; they are what retain the ammunition.
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Yes but there is lots of 20 rounds in the US coming up for sale that would be 5/20 for us.I have never seen the rifle or mags in Canada it is said they were all imported to the US what few there were.



granite said:
FN offered a conversion kit to 7.62, with a 20 round mag. Argentina converted most of theirs over. They all pretty much ended up in the US with neutered to 10 round mags before the ban was lifted, they go for a good $.
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This is the info i have.

There were 176,267 rifles built in total divided among 9 countrys plus a few test rifles.8003 in 7mm 5541 in 7.65mm 37641 in 8mm and the largest number 125,072 in 30-06.At least 5 were made in 6.5 x 55mm for testing by Swedish mil 1 in 7.5mm for testing in France and 1 in 7.62 nato for testing in the US.
Century Arms put a few together made up from spare parts.They being a major importer of surplus arms/FN49.

The 30-06 should be the most common one.






smellie said:
FN-49 was never made in the modern 7.62mm. The 7.62mm FN-49s all were .30-'06, which the Europeans insist on calling 7.62x63.

A VERY few were made in 7.65x53 for Argentina but these are very close to nonexistant. Argentina disposed of these mostly in unfired condition and got more in .30-'06. The 7.65mm variant is not even listed as having been manufactured, although I once saw 12 of them on a rack, couldn't afford one.

Total production of the FN-49 was only about 160,000 units, of which 80,000 were 8mm rifles for Egypt. That's half of them.The rest were divided between the Venezulan 7x57 contract, a very few 7.65mms and the rest all were in .30-'06 and comprise rifles made for several countries.

NO FN-49 is exactly common.

WHY would you want extra Magazines for an FN-49???????????????????? The Magazine holds exactly ZERO rounds of ammunition when it is detached from the Rifle. It only will hold a cartridge at all when it is fixed onto the rifle. The FEED LIPS are in the RIFLE; they are what retain the ammunition.
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Ya i wish that rifle holds alot of history in my family one i want the most [C1A1 C1A2] but no lic so will never own one that fires do to laws.

smellie said:
Garand holds 8 and it's faster to reload.

Not that I'm really into Garands, but they'll do until we get our FALs back on the range.

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smellie said:
FN-49 was never made in the modern 7.62mm. The 7.62mm FN-49s all were .30-'06, which the Europeans insist on calling 7.62x63.

A VERY few were made in 7.65x53 for Argentina but these are very close to nonexistant. Argentina disposed of these mostly in unfired condition and got more in .30-'06. The 7.65mm variant is not even listed as having been manufactured, although I once saw 12 of them on a rack, couldn't afford one.

Total production of the FN-49 was only about 160,000 units, of which 80,000 were 8mm rifles for Egypt. That's half of them.The rest were divided between the Venezulan 7x57 contract, a very few 7.65mms and the rest all were in .30-'06 and comprise rifles made for several countries.

NO FN-49 is exactly common.

WHY would you want extra Magazines for an FN-49???????????????????? The Magazine holds exactly ZERO rounds of ammunition when it is detached from the Rifle. It only will hold a cartridge at all when it is fixed onto the rifle. The FEED LIPS are in the RIFLE; they are what retain the ammunition.
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FN produced 5,536 SAFN in 7.65X53 for Argentina in 1954-55.

Between 1974-77, Metalurgico Centro in Buenos Aires converted a large number to 7.62 NATO with detachable 20 rd mags for the Argentine Navy. They were later imported to the US as surplus with shortened 10 rd mags, but 20 rounders were/are still available.

Original Naval 20 rd 7.62 NATO

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Imprted to US surplus with detachable 10 rounder Note the cudely bent lips on the bottom of the mag to hold the bottom plate in place.

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Argentine Marine with his 7.62 NATO/20 rd detachable mag SAFN.

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I would prefer one in a higher caliber like the bad-ass 8mm Mauser or .30-06.
But those are on the more pricey side of the ammo spectrum (8mm especially so)
I had a chance to buy one in 8mm Mauser for about $500 bucks from my local gunsmiths shop a ways back.
Which is too bad because I love the 8mm Mauser round.
They are awesome looking rifles, they look solid as hell.
I have not yet had the pleasure of firing one.
How are they for accuracy, reliability, simplicity of design?
I admit I don't know much about them.
 
There is a good condition 8mm Mauser one for sale in the Wolverine Sales thread on their site for $750.

I bought the .30-06 which was also supposed to be good condition. It ended up being near mint and unfired since import with cosmoline still in it. That 8mm may be close to the same. He said they are open to offers for all of the remaining firearms so you should make him one and see what he says. He said that he is taking them all to a gun show in early April so get while the gettin's good...

Here's the link. It is number 53 in the list

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=706980


Ian
 
There accuracy is good and i find them very easy to work on the only tool you need is a flat screw driver to take the apart a very tough rifle they operate on the same base line as a fal rifle [tilt bolt set up] you just have to make sure they have a 2 peice firing pin and you should float the barrel check your head space also but after a good cleaning and you get them sited in it is just a steady stream of EMTs.The gas system is ajustable so you can fine tune them to the ammo you are useing.I am rebuilding my 7mm right now and adding a factory slide on scope mount with a more up to date scope i find them a joy to work on if you have good mechanical reasoning you don't need a gunsmith unless it is something machine work related to work on it.It is a good investment.



Travis Bickle said:
I would prefer one in a higher caliber like the bad-ass 8mm Mauser or .30-06.
But those are on the more pricey side of the ammo spectrum (8mm especially so)
I had a chance to buy one in 8mm Mauser for about $500 bucks from my local gunsmiths shop a ways back.
Which is too bad because I love the 8mm Mauser round.
They are awesome looking rifles, they look solid as hell.
I have not yet had the pleasure of firing one.
How are they for accuracy, reliability, simplicity of design?
I admit I don't know much about them.
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