just got more 12g hulls for my supply

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my supply started to run low on 12g hulls, so i got a few more today:)
i got a mixture of Win/Western, RIO, Imperial, CIL, Federal, and Remington 7/8 and 1oz slug, 00b-shot, target shotshell hulls. and there all once fired, cant wait to start loading them all up.

(the old toy box measures 36"L x 14.5"W x 16"H
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Unless you have a serious progressive loader and shoot a thousand rounds per month, 12guage is not worth loading. You won't save a cent for all your time and effort. I find that its much better to buy them when they go on sale, and pick up sh*t load to last for a good part of the year.

Secondly, I prefer to stick to only one type of hull. Every different make of hull and the amount of times it has been fired needs to be calibrated differently in your loading press. Although some presses can adjust quickly, there is always a time loss and a certain amount of casualties with the hulls until you get them working properly. I've learned to stick to only one type of hull, and never have time lost to adjust my press for different makes. The multi selection you have in the picture is a production nightmare.

I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble here, but people toss or leave behind shells like that at the shooting range for a reason. Its not worth the time or effort. I load for 20 gauge and .410 for big savings, but 12 gauge is produced in such massive quantities for a good price that only very serious competitive shooters can save money or make a better shell. For the average stiff that only shoots one or two thousand shots per year, saves a cent or two per round, takes a decade to pay for the loading press and gear. Your time is donated and not counted in the price.
 
20 gauge? :confused:

It's the same price as the bulk 12 gauge in these parts. If you meant 28 gauge then you are corrrect.


This is becoming more true in 2012, but a few years ago was it worth the cost to reload 20gauge. I picked up enough components to shoot for the next 30 years because the price was right. I don't know what is your cost on components, but .410 is about 13 cents per shot and 20G is 17 cents and that is cheaper than buying bulk, then and now. 12 gauge was a saving of 1 or 2 cents per load and has never in my lifetime been economical to reload.
 
what projectile are you talking about? i cast my own slugs and roundballs for next nto nothing. i just calculated it and its costing me .25c per shot ($.14/powder, $.04/primer, $.03/wad,$ .04/slug or roundball). i basicly just load a bunch and stock pile them since i know exactly how they were loaded unlike factory stuff. i use a lee load all.
This is becoming more true in 2012, but a few years ago was it worth the cost to reload 20gauge. I picked up enough components to shoot for the next 30 years because the price was right. I don't know what is your cost on components, but .410 is about 13 cents per shot and 20G is 17 cents and that is cheaper than buying bulk, then and now. 12 gauge was a saving of 1 or 2 cents per load and has never in my lifetime been economical to reload.
 
This is becoming more true in 2012, but a few years ago was it worth the cost to reload 20gauge. I picked up enough components to shoot for the next 30 years because the price was right. I don't know what is your cost on components, but .410 is about 13 cents per shot and 20G is 17 cents and that is cheaper than buying bulk, then and not now. 12 gauge was a saving of 1 or 2 cents per load and has never in my lifetime been economical to reload.
There are real savings to be had loading the subgauges. The component costs of 20 gauge are the same as my 7/8s ounce 12 gauge or about 20 cents per round before taxes. But as I don't shoot that much 20 gauge and the last time I bought WW Super Target it was around $55 a flat. It doesn't seem worth the bother to buy a loader for the 20 gauge.

Before the expansion of the lower price targets lines like Top Gun there were savings to be found with 12 gauge of around $10-20 a flat when compared to Winchester AA. I still keep loading 12 gauge because I bought the loader long ago and have plenty of once-fired, one-piece AA hulls left. Once the hulls are gone I doubt I'll continue loading 12.
 
There are real savings to be had loading the subgauges. The component costs of 20 gauge are the same as my 7/8s ounce 12 gauge or about 20 cents per round before taxes. But as I don't shoot that much 20 gauge and the last time I bought WW Super Target it was around $55 a flat. It doesn't seem worth the bother to buy a loader for the 20 gauge.

Before the expansion of the lower price targets lines like Top Gun there were savings to be found with 12 gauge of around $10-20 a flat when compared to Winchester AA. I still keep loading 12 gauge because I bought the loader long ago and have plenty of once-fired, one-piece AA hulls left. Once the hulls are gone I doubt I'll continue loading 12.

CB
Will you still be alive when all your hulls are used up?

I still load plenty of 12 gauge. I prefer to shoot 7/8oz loads and you can get close 450 rounds out of a 25lb bag of shot, plus all of the wads and primers I bought 10 years ago need to be assembled, then fired. I have always enjoyed loading 12 gauge and try and keep about 10 flats on hand at all times.FS
 
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