1887 Swedish Nagant revolver

[apu]

Have an antique Swedish 1887 Nagant revolver coming my way. Does anyone have any reloading experience with this beastie? I understand the 7.5mm ammo is similar to 7.5 swiss ordinance but the original swede model had a heeled .325 bullet vs .312 non heeled projectile in the Swiss. Not likely to find a similar heeled bullet mould in .325, any suggestion on alternates and any tips re: sourcing brass, dies?, thanks in advance.

 

[jethunter]

Have an antique Swedish 1887 Nagant revolver coming my way. Does anyone have any reloading experience with this beastie? I understand the 7.5mm ammo is similar to 7.5 swiss ordinance but the original swede model had a heeled .325 bullet vs .312 non heeled projectile in the Swiss. Not likely to find a similar heeled bullet mould in .325, any suggestion on alternates and any tips re: sourcing brass, dies?, thanks in advance.

You can make brass from 32-20 or 25-20. Bullets.... i don't know. Might get some answers on the Gunboards Forums site under the Swedish Military firearms sub forum.

 

[drslav]

he can probably use the .330s you sell. best to get a few and try. easiest to get the gun, slug the bore, get few 32-20 put them together and try it. Wandering what would work for a powder load...probably bit less than most. say 2.5 max.
there are reloading dies available...not sure where but RCBS makes one very expensive though and brass is easier to find in US too.
check gunbroker for brass and dies. may find some.

 

[SCHNEIDERSAUTO]

32/20 brass cut down . got dies from states . not cheap .

 

[cuerno de chivo]

Buffalo arms has the dies in stock for this caliber made by CH4
I reload the 7.5 swiss and I use bullits from the .314-98 gr mould by RCBS with great satisfaction. From my extensive reading on the subject, people in Europe reload the same way for the 7.5 Swiss and Swedish Nagant with excellent results.

Take a look at NEI, I think they make a heel bullit mould for the nagant.....

 

[apu]

It looks like from the reading I am also doing the actual bores of the Swedish Nagant and Swiss ordinance revolver are very similar dimensionally and should equally accomadate an inside case lubed .312-.314 projectile. Although I suspect the cylinder chambers are non tapered for a heeled round I am not sure if there will be huge benifit to try and source a heeled bullet and a appropriate brass crimper. Think I might just try trimmed 32-20 brass, 7.5mm Swiss revolver dies and a .312 projectile. If anyone thinks there is a flaw in my plan please do let me know, thanks.

 

[SCHNEIDERSAUTO]

sounds good . worked for me

 

[apu]

The Swede arrived in mail today, quite an incredible amount (probably at least 95%) of original finish remains including the straw colouring on trigger/hammer, looks it was next to never fired with it's shiney new looking bore and tight mechanics and perfect walnut grips.

Its a very early Swedish handgun that was actually made by the Nagant brothers not the later production by the Husqvarna factory. This is one of the first pre Husqvarna production 1887 that I have come across. Has pre 1893 Liege proofs, also based on the 3 digit serial was made in the the first year of production for this model(1888). It was part of the original Swedish Army's order of 2600 revolvers that was produced by Nagant. It has the Swedish inspection officer's initials CL -Christofer Lemchen one of two officers assigned to inspect and accept these for the army. Based on the rack markings looks like it at some point ended it's martial duty and was reissued to Swedish paramilitary Landstormen unit( akin to a territorial army) probably pre WWI but certainly could have served well past WWII. Neat history.

 

[dingus]

Very nice apu Looks like a keeper
They really are very well made guns.
I have a orignal 2nd model Schofield on its way to me and the waiting is driveing me nuts!

 

[Pete04]

Very nice, congrats on the find.
Like dingus says, they are built to last. A true "keeper" for sure!

 

[Fig33]

Beautiful looking revolver, let us know how it shoots.


Cheers David

 

[Pete04]

I have a orignal 2nd model Schofield on its way to me and the waiting is driveing me nuts!

LOL waiting is part of the fun though, isn't it? LOL

If finding and aquiering these gems was an every day event, it would surely detract from the hobbie all together! Like working in the candy factory. IMHO

 

[drslav]

Awesome looking gun simple too.
I am watching the sites for one priced right. Like to get a belgian or swedish gun as well. They are a lot nicer that russian nagants.
maybe swiss 1882??? what is out there. i seen some swiss gun pics and vids. they are nicely made too
Very interested how your gun does with the 312 bullets.

 

[Can-down]

Schysst (Sweet in Swedish) Nagant!

 

[Duracutter]

Have an antique Swedish 1887 Nagant revolver coming my way. Does anyone have any reloading experience with this beastie? I understand the 7.5mm ammo is similar to 7.5 swiss ordinance but the original swede model had a heeled .325 bullet vs .312 non heeled projectile in the Swiss. Not likely to find a similar heeled bullet mould in .325, any suggestion on alternates and any tips re: sourcing brass, dies?, thanks in advance.

I have 2 swedish service revolvers 1882, looks close to yours. I use 32 s&w long as sold in stores. Fires nice, pretty accurate and it's easy to reload your own. I was shooting next to a guy who had some reloaded 32 longs, I think he said 2.8 bullseye and they shot nice, less than 1/2" at 25yards.

Nice guns...and they can be shot in the back of the house at the farm, can't beat that. The guy couldn't believe it when I told him you can shoot them anywhere a non restricted can shoot.

 

[dingus]

LOL waiting is part of the fun though, isn't it? LOL

If finding and aquiering these gems was an every day event, it would surely detract from the hobbie all together! Like working in the candy factory. IMHO

True! i just had one schofield US marked gun clear Customs so am happy about that, they been so slow the last while.
I think the part of this hobby i like the best is that i get to open parcels with handguns inside and you never know when your gona get a beauty like Apus Nagant.

 

[apu]

I think the part of this hobby i like the best is that i get to open parcels with handguns inside and you never know when your gona get a beauty like Apus Nagant.

I have to admit the anticipation is probably the best part of the aquisition process This one took a little longer than it should have so I just assumed customs was man handling it as usual and I might as well hunker down for a wait. I was quite pleasantly surprised to find it plainly sitting in my mailbox yesterday quite unmolested and generally ignorned with no taxes due on the full declared value.

Weird, 2nd parcel in last month or so that just sailed across with no demand for taxes. I guess I am expected to self asses the tax and send them a check, will get right on that

Thank you gentleman for all the kind comments and sage advice. I will try and post a range update as soon as my brass, dies and projectiles are assembled.

 

[dingus]

I have to admit the anticipation is probably the best part of the aquisition process This one took a little longer than it should have so I just assumed customs was man handling it as usual and I might as well hunker down for a wait. I was quite pleasantly surprised to find it plainly sitting in my mailbox yesterday quite unmolested and generally ignorned with no taxes due on the full declared value.

Weird, 2nd parcel in last month or so that just sailed across with no demand for taxes. I guess I am expected to self asses the tax and send them a check, will get right on that

Thank you gentleman for all the kind comments and sage advice. I will try and post a range update as soon as my brass, dies and projectiles are assembled.

Mine used to be like that now almost everything goes thru Quebec customs for me to B.C so now everything is taxed that Schofield sat there two weeks.
Quebec used to be the best for no taxes and fast down time now there the worst i wonder what changed there.
other than a Tax hungery Fed makeing them tax stuff.
I had a SFRB with $75 value they still taxed it $17

 

[drslav]

I have to admit the anticipation is probably the best part of the aquisition process This one took a little longer than it should have so I just assumed customs was man handling it as usual and I might as well hunker down for a wait. I was quite pleasantly surprised to find it plainly sitting in my mailbox yesterday quite unmolested and generally ignorned with no taxes due on the full declared value.

Weird, 2nd parcel in last month or so that just sailed across with no demand for taxes. I guess I am expected to self asses the tax and send them a check, will get right on that

Thank you gentleman for all the kind comments and sage advice. I will try and post a range update as soon as my brass, dies and projectiles are assembled.

shhhh, quiet or they will send you the bill.

 

[jmiddy]

The Swede arrived in mail today, quite an incredible amount (probably at least 95%) of original finish remains including the straw colouring on trigger/hammer, looks it was next to never fired with it's shiney new looking bore and tight mechanics and perfect walnut grips.

Its a very early Swedish handgun that was actually made by the Nagant brothers not the later production by the Husqvarna factory. This is one of the first pre Husqvarna production 1887 that I have come across. Has pre 1893 Liege proofs, also based on the 3 digit serial was made in the the first year of production for this model(1888). It was part of the original Swedish Army's order of 2600 revolvers that was produced by Nagant. It has the Swedish inspection officer's initials CL -Christofer Lemchen one of two officers assigned to inspect and accept these for the army. Based on the rack markings looks like it at some point ended it's martial duty and was reissued to Swedish paramilitary Landstormen unit( akin to a territorial army) probably pre WWI but certainly could have served well past WWII. Neat history.

Nice Find