I think you'd have a hard time even trying to find a place to shoot 300-350 yards over Haliburton way!!
Can you actually consistantly hit the vitals at that distance???
Big and slow vs fast and small
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I think you'd have a hard time even trying to find a place to shoot 300-350 yards over Haliburton way!!
Can you actually consistantly hit the vitals at that distance???
Ya, lol i didn't really mean that the 350 was going to be a range that i get to shoot deer at. Last one was at 10 yards. I haven't taken it out that far so i wouldn't try it , but yesterday did take it to 225 roughly ( need to range find it) and was making good hits. Only time i could see me using that range would be moose hunting over a swamp or pond and taking a shot across it.
I like big, heavy, hard and slow bullets on big, heavy, hard and slow animals.
Small, light, soft and fast animals seem to succumb readily to small, light, soft and fast bullets.
There's precious little in North America that requires, or is better served by the first approach.
Small, light, soft and fast animals seem to succumb readily to small, light, soft and fast bullets.
There's precious little in North America that requires, or is better served by the first approach.
Which means what? A full recovery and a happy spring step back to chasing rainbows? I doubt it.
I think you would agree that the faster the blood pours out of an animal, the faster it expires. That is what we are doing in the end, correct? Case in point, take a deer hit by your average vehicle. The deer must absorb about a bazillion ft-lbs of energy but many are still alive after the impact, even all mangled up inside, because the blood loss is often minimal. So I think it's hard to argue that 2 holes are not better than one as far as killing game quickly goes.
The deer I hit only bled at the point where the leg bone ripped thru the hide as it was caught in my rim. I assure you it was an immediate death. Front shoulders Damn near center grill. Left headlight in the back of ribs at 125km/h. When I slit the belly it was like a water balloon popped inside. Internal bleeding works well. Makes tracking harder
As to fast and slow and heavy or light. My 2 hunting cals fall into both. 2506 using 75-120gr bullets between 3100-3500fps and 4570 using a hardcast 405gr bullet at 1600fps. I admit I haven't killed anything with my 4570 yet (except a groundhog) but my 2506 fires lighting at what ever game its aimed at. All 1 shot kills. Groundhogs and crows coyotes deer and even a 300lb ish black bear. Which fell in her tracks with no exit hole. Altho I haven't killed with my 45 my 50cal muzzleloader has taken many deer. Lung shots provide 50-100yard run. A shot thru the shoulder and the animal is dead before the smoke clears. I have never recovered a bullet from game shot with a heavy slow bullet.
I'm sure every deer I lung shot with a muzzle loader would have dropped in their tracks if I had had my 2506. But if shoulder shots were taken the animal would be just as dead but I'd be able to eat some meat off those shoulders if a big heavy slow bullet was used. A light fast bullet may kill but the meat could be sucked thru a straw. This year I'm going to use my 4570 on bear and hopefully maybe wild boar
As to fast and slow and heavy or light. My 2 hunting cals fall into both. 2506 using 75-120gr bullets between 3100-3500fps and 4570 using a hardcast 405gr bullet at 1600fps. I admit I haven't killed anything with my 4570 yet (except a groundhog) but my 2506 fires lighting at what ever game its aimed at. All 1 shot kills. Groundhogs and crows coyotes deer and even a 300lb ish black bear. Which fell in her tracks with no exit hole. Altho I haven't killed with my 45 my 50cal muzzleloader has taken many deer. Lung shots provide 50-100yard run. A shot thru the shoulder and the animal is dead before the smoke clears. I have never recovered a bullet from game shot with a heavy slow bullet.
I'm sure every deer I lung shot with a muzzle loader would have dropped in their tracks if I had had my 2506. But if shoulder shots were taken the animal would be just as dead but I'd be able to eat some meat off those shoulders if a big heavy slow bullet was used. A light fast bullet may kill but the meat could be sucked thru a straw. This year I'm going to use my 4570 on bear and hopefully maybe wild boar
