Guns at the Royal Ontario Museum *pic heavy*

[IAMAWILDPARTY]

I was at the museum the other day and took a few pictures of some of the guns I liked the best. Thought maybe some of you folks might be interested to see what's on display there.

I took some pics of the info, where I found it to be particularly interesting. One of the sets was comissioned by Napoleon for his sister, very cool stuff.

Sorry about the photo quality, my camera isn't great.


European exhibit:

who doesn't love a webley?

 

[IAMAWILDPARTY]

Canadian Exhibit(British/French)

 

[IAMAWILDPARTY]

Aboriginal Exhibit

snow knife with ivory handle:

rifle cases

 

[maple_leaf_eh]

These guns are in Toronto, right? And not seized by the cops?

 

[IAMAWILDPARTY]

These guns are in Toronto, right? And not seized by the cops?

lol, yeah, antiques, for the most part. Though I think the luger may be a prohib... probably deactivated.

 

[Short Knife Johnson]

lol, yeah, antiques, for the most part. Though I think the luger may be a prohib... probably deactivated.

Not so. As I understand it, museums can be exempted from the whole prohibted mess and even the firearms act itself. Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[cyclone]

Do I see 2 French beauties ?....

 

[tiriaq]

Are the large English fishtail butt matchlock musket and German paddle butt wheellock carbine still displayed? Was able to have these removed to an examining room, measured and drew them for making reproductions nigh on 40 years ago. The matchlock repro wound up in a Parks Canada historic site.

 

[IAMAWILDPARTY]

Are the large English fishtail butt matchlock musket and German paddle butt wheellock carbine still displayed? Was able to have these removed to an examining room, measured and drew them for making reproductions nigh on 40 years ago. The matchlock repro wound up in a Parks Canada historic site.

The German I think is, I'll post a pic later.

 

[cancer]

That Lewis gun would look great in my front yard.

 

[tiriaq]

Even better on a range.....

 

[bellero]

I never realized the ROM had such nice firearms, they weren't on display last time I went there about 8 years ago.

 

[IAMAWILDPARTY]

Are the large English fishtail butt matchlock musket and German paddle butt wheellock carbine still displayed? Was able to have these removed to an examining room, measured and drew them for making reproductions nigh on 40 years ago. The matchlock repro wound up in a Parks Canada historic site.

This the one? I tried taking a picture three times, every time was blurry. That was easily one of my favourites.

I know, awful picture, I was kind of in a hurry to meet someone and i was getting weird looks for taking pictures of the guns and nothing else.

The ROM has some very cool stuff in general, I've been there three times in the past year and I'm looking forward to going back. Maybe I'll even have a better camera

A british girl(about fourteen years of age) asked her mother 'were these used in the world war?'.
They were looking at the flintlocks in the Canadian exhibit. Her mother responded that they were.
I was too dumbstruck to correct them.

 

[tiriaq]

Yup that's it.
Way back then I bandsawed a stock blank, machined up and breeched a tapered octagon to round 24ga barrel, salted these away. Recently obtained a set of wheel lock parts from TRS, and have partially assembled the lock.
It is a really cute, light gun.
I'll take a picture of the project as it stands.

 

[tiriaq]

Here are photos of the paddlebutt wheellock project as it is today:

 

[plinker 777]

Love those Scots pistols. Are they solid steel framed? 2 halves screwed/bolted together?

 

[tiriaq]

The ones I have seen have the frames/stocks brazed to gether.

 

[Sharps '63]

ROM Guns

Yeah, been there, seen that .... drooled on the glass.

Heard an interesting comment from a staffer. Seems that at one time display guns were fastened to the wall of displays with copper bands. The guns were deterioriating and it turned out that there was a an electrolitic action occurring between the copper, steel and the dessicant they put in the display cases.

In trying to preserve the guns, they were doing the opposite! It was a bright bulb in the public that pointed out the error.

 

[mooncoon]

The ones I have seen have the frames/stocks brazed together.

The AMLR forum had an excellent series of posts about making one. The rams horn was brazed on but the bulk of the stock was forged around a steel form.

If ever I have some spare time on my hands I would love to make one. I did see an original in an auction several years ago but at $3000 it was beyond my price range

cheers mooncoon

 

[plinker 777]

Expensive yes, overpriced probably not. Very rare to see a functional original. Most were destroyed after the `45. (Jacobite disarmament) Only people of money and government friendly would have been able to keep them.