My Norc AR

shooterphd said:
"common practice" doesn't mean it's the correct way of doing things. It just means there is a lot of bush league, half-ass work being promoted. Its wrong!

The only "fool" is the guy who hacksaws off parts of his gun. Spend the $40.00, get the proper gas block and do it right the first time.

There is a lot of new and/or inexperienced ar users/builders out there. We, as a community should be advising fellow 'nutters of the right way of doing things. Not the bush league way.
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:rolleyes:....yeah, oK then.

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Just so everyone knows, its threads like this that don't make the new black rifle shooters feel like they should get a black rifle.

Dood didn't do anything wrong, posted his amazing looking norc rifle probably because he was proud of building on a budget, and some jack comes along and smacks him up side the face for it.

Ill leave it at that, but common guys, can't we just be impressed at what he did on such a shoestring budget? (Flame suit on).
 
slushee said:
Just so everyone knows, its threads like this that don't make the new black rifle shooters feel like they should get a black rifle.

Dood didn't do anything wrong, posted his amazing looking norc rifle probably because he was proud of building on a budget, and some jack comes along and smacks him up side the face for it.

Ill leave it at that, but common guys, can't we just be impressed at what he did on such a shoestring budget? (Flame suit on).
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We are happy for him. There's only one guy here talking down to him.



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simpleton said:
We are happy for him. There's only one guy here talking down to him.



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I wasn't trying to point fingers :p on the flip side, I'm really excited saving up to get a norc! Not sure if ill replace the stock with the railed handgrip but its pics like the OP's that make me drool.
 
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Bolivar said:
What specifically is WRONG with cutting off the sight tower. I can't see a problem with function of the rifle as a result. However you are very firm in stance so I have to assume you have a reason for your position.

I would like to understand WHY it is wrong. Please elaborate. Feel free to be technical and specific . We are big boys here. Thanks.
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f:P: Okay, I will try asking one more time.

WHY is cutting the front sight tower wrong. Specifically and technically WHY?
 
cutting the fsb is actually better than a low profile gas block. i know all the local departments do the same thing.

i know of many people with $3k ar that has the fsb cut, myself included.

TWK


ShooterPHD said:
"Common practice" doesn't mean it's the correct way of doing things. It just means there is a lot of bush league, half-ass work being promoted. Its wrong!

The only "fool" is the guy who hacksaws off parts of his gun. Spend the $40.00, get the proper gas block and do it right the first time.

There is a lot of new and/or inexperienced AR users/builders out there. We, as a community should be advising fellow 'nutters of the right way of doing things. NOT the bush league way.
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Bolivar said:
From post #40


f:P: Okay, I will try asking one more time.

WHY is cutting the front sight tower wrong. Specifically and technically WHY?
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It is not wrong. And it is a heck of a lot easier than fitting a new gas block.

My critique - a quad rail is a great place to hang all sorts of tackykewl gewgaws. If there is a need to hang a large number of these things on the rifle.
As a forearm, a place to hold the rifle, it is second rate to either the original or a tube.
A good optic is one of the first things to be acquired, long before the go fast accessories.
If something enhances the accuracy and performance of the rifle, great. If its just for appearances or style, put the money into ammunition and range time. It'll do more good.
 
mmattockx said:
Because it offends ShooterPHD's sensibilities by not being expensive or cool enough for him to approve. Maybe too practical, too.

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Come, come now Mark. There must be more to it than that. I mean ShooterPHD has said so many complimentary things about the OP and other who have cut down their FSB.

I mean this guy must really know his stuff, be a real expert. After all, he apparently has a PHD in in Shooting right?

ShooterPHD said:
Why didn't you just remove the front sight and replace with a low-pro gas block?

I'm in the process of a similar build, and wondering if all these front sights are as impossible to get off as mine was??
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ShooterPHD said:
f:P: Bush league... IMO
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ShooterPHD said:
It would seem there is a lack of knowledge, that's the problem with jokers playing gunsmith. If I met this guy in person, I'd tell him the same thing. It has nothing to do with "spitting on him via the internet". If you don't know what your doing, you shouldn't be working on guns. Do the job the right way and not the half-assed way. This is a better message to be passing along. Not, "get a hack saw, build a custom AR"

If you're offended by this, I suspect you approve and support this type of bush league gunsmithing.

I can't wait until you unknowingly buy one of these "custom built" AR's in the EE.
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ShooterPHD said:
"Common practice" doesn't mean it's the correct way of doing things. It just means there is a lot of bush league, half-ass work being promoted. Its wrong!

The only "fool" is the guy who hacksaws off parts of his gun. Spend the $40.00, get the proper gas block and do it right the first time.

There is a lot of new and/or inexperienced AR users/builders out there. We, as a community should be advising fellow 'nutters of the right way of doing things. NOT the bush league way.
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Perhaps after all this, his first post was telling. He went to the trouble of removing is gas block and replacing it and now feels like he wasted his time an money?

I am sure he will enlighten us if we just wait patiently.
 
I was hoping for some pearls of wisdom about resale on the EE. Guess not.

My original plan was to get a Norc M4, cut the FSB and make the same Mod as the OP, but in my own fashion with a rounded fore end with a rail on top for fold-up BUIS because I hate front sights sticking in front of an Aimpoint. Just trying to make a cheap AR CQB gun for myself. I don't see the point of spending a huge sum for that game. $40 bucks saved for a low pro gas block gets put into ammo easily.
Still might get an NEA and be done with it.
 
lejarretnoir said:
I was hoping for some pearls of wisdom about resale on the EE. Guess not.
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FWIW, I'd rather buy an AR with a cut-down, pinned gas block than with a clamp or set-screw gas block.

I cut down the pinned sight on my Armalite using an angle grinder and Dremel to finish. It's not hard to do a decent job of it. It's wearing an 11" FF rail now and you'd never know it was there.

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both work fine but with the Norinco i would cut before using a set-screw gas block as they really put thier FSB's on tight and are a real PITA to get off...as i just found out a few days ago with this one and in retrospect, i should have just taken the dremel to it.
and to the OP, nice first build...im sure it wont be your last.
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Incidentally, Brownells sells a modestly priced gas block which has a short integral rail on top for a clamp on front sight, and which is drilled and tapped on the sides and bottom for short sections of rail, which can be installed if needed. Makes a neat, tidy installation usable with a tube forend. I like tube forends. They are the easiest possible way to install a barrel. Barrel nut on, screw on the tube. Only two pieces.
It can be argued that a clamp style gas block is more positively affixed than one with set screws. Properly fitted, either system will do yeoman service. Retrofitting a crosspinned gasblock can be a bit of an adventure.
A cut down front sight base is as clean, secure and inexpensive a low profile gasblock as can be had. Only downside is that provision for a front sight is gone.
 
OP. rifle looks great! Do what you want. Ignore the Internet, gunsmiths/chest pokers/critics. They have opinions and sometimes feel its necessary to force it on others and make them feel ####ty for doing something to their weapons that they don't agree with.

Grow the hell up. He has earnt the right to do WHATEVER the hell he wants to it and show it off in whatever shape it turns out like. "IMO" does not give a wall to hide behind when slagging someone's rifle off. It's plain rude to belittle someone's ideas on how they want their rifle on a public forum.

Well done to everyone who actually gave a honest and respectful OPINION. :)

Cheers OP

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