Help Identifying,age value of old SxS

[Lobster_pot]

Hey guys! A friend of mine has this old shotgun. He seems to think it might be worth something. I am not so sure. It's pretty rough bluing is pretty much gone. There is a crack in stock not that bad though. One firing pin is damaged but still functions. Bore has pitting. On top of the barrels it says Belguim Imperial Damascus and in another spot Chrome Bored. On the side it says T Barker. Any info, age or value would be appreciated to settle friendly argument. Lol. sorry for the Terrible pics taken with phone in workshop.

 

[Mike Webb]

Pics aren't the greatest but in my opinion the shotgun might be worth $100 as a wallhanger. Thousands of these field grade doubles were imported in the late 1800's and early 1900's. They sold cheap and lived hard lives. Sometimes they were branded using higher quality brand names in an attempt to cash in on other firms reputations. Barker is close to Parker, I have also seen one marked L.C. Schmidt(L.C. Smith) and W. Richards(Westley Richards) Not to say the Belgians didn't make some very fine shotguns but this ain't one of them.

 

[planemaker]

Looks like a J.A.B.K.

Just Another Belgian klunker more likely than not. Unremarkable quality price point double made for export to North American hardware stores. Usually with a name that resembles some other higher quality maker. While there were some very high quality Belgian doubles with value exported, this is not one and worth little if it were without the defects mentioned.

 

[Lobster_pot]

Right on guys thanks for the info. That's what I thought too. I figured maybe $50 as a wall hanger and a hurting one at that. Maybe ok as hunting camp wall hanger. Lol. Thanks for the info.

 

[gunsaholic]

Yes, I'm afraid the gun is worth pretty much nothing. He might get $75.00 from someone who is looking for a decoration to put on a cabin wall. There are hundreds of these type of old, worn out trade brand guns out there.

 

[Grouse Man]

Those are actually better-than-average pictures. Yes, that's a delightful wallhanger, full of character.

 

[Yukongoldigger]

I am having a hard time finding any information on this gun that was passed down to me and was wondering if anyone could help. It is an L.C. Smith double hammer with a damascus barrel. ser. # 9021. looks to be 12 gauge, and you use the front trigger to break open the action. It has some etching and on the bottom off the trigger gaurd is a hunting dog in "pointing" position.

I am new to the site and apparently I cannot post photos yet.

 

[gunsaholic]

I am having a hard time finding any information on this gun that was passed down to me and was wondering if anyone could help. It is an L.C. Smith double hammer with a damascus barrel. ser. # 9021. looks to be 12 gauge, and you use the front trigger to break open the action. It has some etching and on the bottom off the trigger gaurd is a hunting dog in "pointing" position.

I am new to the site and apparently I cannot post photos yet.

You need to use a host such as photo bucket to post pics. I would start a new thread about your gun if I were you. Here is a bit of info. Your gun is probably from 1880-1884.


Baker Double-Barrel Gun

Style of the Baker Double-Barrel Gun was similar to that of the Three-Barrel Gun. The rib was marked “L.C. Smith Maker of Baker Guns, Syracuse, N.Y.” The front trigger was pushed forward to unlock and open the breech. It was available in 10 and 12 gauges, and it is estimated that 8,305 Double-Barrel Guns were made by L.C. Smith.

The following are the catalog descriptions of the qualities offered:

• Quality A – English twist shot barrels, black walnut stock, plain finish, $40.

• Quality B – Damascus or laminated steel barrels, black walnut stock, pistol grip, checkered, border engraved, $55.

• Quality C – Damascus or laminated steel barrels, English or very fine American walnut stock, pistol grip, checked, finely engraved, $80.

• Quality D – Damascus or laminated steel barrels, fine English walnut stock, full or half pistol grip, checked, much better finish and engraved, $100.

• Quality E – Very fine Damascus or laminated steel barrels, very fine English walnut stock, full or half pistol grip, checked, finely engraved, $150.

• Qualify F – The finest Damascus or laminated steel barrels, best English walnut stock, full pistol grip, elegantly engraved, $200.

 

[canvasback]

I am having a hard time finding any information on this gun that was passed down to me and was wondering if anyone could help. It is an L.C. Smith double hammer with a damascus barrel. ser. # 9021. looks to be 12 gauge, and you use the front trigger to break open the action. It has some etching and on the bottom off the trigger gaurd is a hunting dog in "pointing" position.

I am new to the site and apparently I cannot post photos yet.

If you can't figure out how to post pictures, you could email them to me and I'll post them for you in a new thread, so that we don't hijack this one. james@roblins.com

 

[ninepointer]

BTW, what are the storage & display regs if one wanted to hang a clunker over the mantel?

 

[gunsaholic]

BTW, what are the storage & display regs if one wanted to hang a clunker over the mantel?

Well for sure it would have to be in non firing condition. Key thing here is what do they classify as non-operational. Is removal of the firing pins enough or do you physically have to obstruct the barrels? Anyone want to call down and check?