WWI 9mm parabellum ammo

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Hey guys,

I recently acquired from pretty darn old World war one 9mm parabellum ammunition from my grandfather. I believe the ammo is from 1917. Couple questions:

1. Is this stuff OK to shoot through my M&P? Or would that not be recommended?

2. Is the ammo worth anything to ammo collectors?

Thanks
 
I would not shoot it for two reasons, it has historical value and that type of ammo is still available. If you have lots of it and want to experiment with a round or two to see if it still works then I would try it in a gun that I don't value much and use a long string to pull the trigger.
 
Vancouvergunnut said:
Hey guys,

I recently acquired from pretty darn old World war one 9mm parabellum ammunition from my grandfather. I believe the ammo is from 1917. Couple questions:

1. Is this stuff OK to shoot through my M&P? Or would that not be recommended?

2. Is the ammo worth anything to ammo collectors?

Thanks
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Yes and yes. The primer in the ammunition last a very long time and it should be safe to fire.

It they are still in there boxes and seal they are worth quite a bit to collectors. I never seen ww1 era 9mm so they are rare indeed.

cheers
 
aw man thats cool! don't shoot more than one or two!!! once its gone its gone, just for shear coolness or historical or drinkin story value, its worth keeping around. Hell I'd buy a box from ya if it were for sale
 
shredder said:
What's the headstamp say?

IIRC the only countries using 9mm in WW1 were Italy and Germany?
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My grandfather has a German 9mm Luger from 1917 which he acquired the ammo with. The gun was passed down to him from his dad (my great grand father).

The headstamp on some of them says "A E P 9m/m p" and the others say "DI 42"

Unfortunately they are not in their cases. They are in cheap paper boxes, and each cartridge is not seperated like in modern ammo boxes. They look like surplus ammo from the war.
 
DI 42 is 1942 Canadian stuff made by Dominion I think. If the other ammo is indeed WWI Vintage please dont shoot it! I know many folks collect military surplus ammunition of a certain period for collections.
 
Vancouvergunnut said:
My grandfather has a German 9mm Luger from 1917 which he acquired the ammo with. The gun was passed down to him from his dad (my great grand father).

The headstamp on some of them says "A E P 9m/m p" and the others say "DI 42"

Unfortunately they are not in their cases. They are in cheap paper boxes, and each cartridge is not seperated like in modern ammo boxes. They look like surplus ammo from the war.
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"DI 42 " should not be fired in Lugers! This ammo was loaded to a higher pressure, for use in SMG's.
 
i dont have a camera at the moment, but will later when my girlfriend gets home. ill post some then.

they have a red primer, and a silver bullet, and normal brass casing.

they read 'A E P 9m/m P' on the head stamp.
 
Since I started this thread, anybody know the worth/rarity of old lugers? Not that im looking to sell it, its a family heirloom, but in any case..

i've been looking around the web and the one that matches the description best is a 1917 DMW Artillery luger.
 
DI 42 as mentioned is Dominion Arsenal (Canadian) 1942.
AEP 9mmP is Belgian 9mm made by Anciens Etablissement Pieper. As for date.. I believe that its post WW1 (late 1920's - 1930's).

Worth... about $1 ea.

just my 2 cents
 
c1a1 said:
"DI 42 " should not be fired in Lugers! This ammo was loaded to a higher pressure, for use in SMG's.
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true, but my dad put hundreds if not thousands of rounds of it thru his artillery luger in the 60's before he traded it, never broke anything. Ah the days of cheap surplus 9mm are gone, <sob> Luger ammo was loaded hot compared to north american 9mm standards.

that being said, i'd not recomend it.
 
Cocked&Locked said:
true, but my dad put hundreds if not thousands of rounds of it thru his artillery luger in the 60's before he traded it, never broke anything. Ah the days of cheap surplus 9mm are gone, <sob> Luger ammo was loaded hot compared to north american 9mm standards.

that being said, i'd not recomend it.
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Im in the exact same boat. I spoke to my grand dad today and he said they used to fire a bunch of that DI 42 ammo thru the luger back in the day. It hasn't been fired in probably over 25 years, and everything appears to work fine on it.

He did say he remembers that a very limited number of times, the action would not stay open after the last round was fired from the magazine. I dont kno why, but he says he only recalls it happening a couple of times.

I cant wait to get some pics of it to see what its worth. I wouldnt think of selling it, but im still very curious
 
Haha, i know im working on pics of the ammo. Ill get some up tonight.

The gun is currently an hour drive away from me at my grandparents house. He is going to initiate the transfer tomorrow i think, then I can take posession and show you guys pics of it as well
 
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