I am a good shot and have a world class rifle....

As Daniel mentions there is far more to becoming a world class shooter than shooting small groups. There are only two ways to find out where you sit. The first is competition. The second is combat.
 
My father, my uncles olds timers showed us when we were young man to dope the height and to dope the wind, they knew how to shoot a moose accross the lake @ 2000 feets without missing, they were telling us look at the branch in the trees, or at the waves on the lake, later on varmint hunting @ 5 or 600 yards we could slice the shot and hit our target, we learned to always be aware of the wind, i am looking forward to those meetings... JP.

I couldn't help but imagine that all being narrated in Ron Burgundy's voice with Baxter barking in agreement :p


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As Daniel mentions there is far more to becoming a world class shooter than shooting small groups. There are only two ways to find out where you sit. The first is competition. The second is combat.

In combat, being a good shot means nothing.... unless you are unable to shoot something that weighs 150 pounds.....
 
In combat, being a good shot means nothing.... unless you are unable to shoot something that weighs 150 pounds.....

You would be sadly surprised. Actually hitting a target that is moving ,shooting back and most likely trying NOT to get shot does take some skill. Unless you are a C6 gunner lol.
I was think more along the lines of precision rifles. I don't care who you are, you need to have your #### together to fire perfect shots under those conditions.
 
Screamers shooting unsorted hornady's out of a "take down" tacticool rifle at slightly over mag length. Possible but very unlikely.

This rifle was build and tried for the Marines, it is not your regular bubba rifle and still,it is more than candy at 7K scoped... JP.;)
 
If you can shoot this target all in Polar bear and not touch the silver part of loonie then you will be a supreme shooter.

Now i did mesure the inside of a toony and i passed the test as my groups is .647 and the inside is .651, should be able to duplicate... JP.]

You are measuring precision only. The test is for precision and accuracy.

While those groups could be great, they vary left/right in accuracy even if I assume you intended the POI to be the top of the black circle. Regardless of distance, they appear ~.4 left.
 
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An imagine all written down by a pure french guy from quebekistan that can communicate easily with all the nices english canadians fellows cgners on that fantastic forum... JP.:rockOn:
 
You are measuring precision only. The test is for precision and accuracy.

While those groups could be great, they vary left/right in accuracy even if I assume you intended the POI to be the top of the black circle. Regardless of distance, they appear ~.4 left.
When i shoot for small groups, i dont really care if i am a little bit of the bulleye, when neccesairy i will zero so nothing get out of the black, it will be the easy part... JP.:sniper:
 
I look forward to seeing results from the MOA challenge.

Hope you can make it, it will be my pleasure to let you installed your chrony so you can forever remember the # you will see, they are saying seeing is believing... Cheers. JP.
 
Hope you can make it, it will be my pleasure to let you installed your chrony so you can forever remember the # you will see, they are saying seeing is believing... Cheers. JP.
It isn't the speed that I'm doubting, 2600 fps from a 308 is almost normal. It is the group sizes I doubt. I wish I can come out for the shoot, biggest issue would be the 1200+ miles for me to fly. I will watch for results tho, judging by your posts of late, we'll hear about for 6 months after the shoot or, not at all.
 
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