well...All you guys can can talk back and forth all you want about the safest way to have the guns stored in your gun cart...but at the end of the day he is building a cart for CAS and SASS law is muzzle up. We have been this route already and according to SASS there is no room for movement on this...also if you are shooting at a range that uses SASS rules (as most are) ...your pretty well locked in there as well.
Correct, true and as it should be.
The problem with muzzle down guncarts in CAS is that firearms are supposed to be transported to the loading and unloading tables muzzle up. Unless you take your cart to the firing line you run a real risk of sweeping someone as you remove your long guns from the cart (if it is a muzzle down design) and move them to muzzle up. Then you don't get to play anymore. Some CAS clubs do not allow carts that carry muzzle down.
Also correct, and as it should be. There is no room to bring a gun cart to the firing area for staging since you have so many "spotters", loading table guy, unloading table guy, RO. There would be 3 or 4 gun carts deep at the loading table, then again at the unloading table which would be completely unacceptable. People who don't shoot cowboy seem to think that the guns will be loaded on the cart, but they are always empty going to and coming from the firing line.
Muzzle up as per SASS/cas rules,
NO exceptions on all of the Sask. ranges I am in charge of. End of story.
Doc. CRO Saskatchewan Association of Wild West Shooters
Horses mouth, there you have it. Likely an ROII.
And if you have ever been to or shot a Cowboy match, muzzle up make the perfect sense.
It is interesting to see CAS take such a hard line on gun carts when they allow cross draw holsters
Apparently:
muzzle toward the ground = not allowed
muzzle pointed uprange = just fine.
Keep your lack of experience with Cowboy Action to yourself. Shouldn't speak negatively on something you don't do or understand, not cool. People who don't shoot your discipline of choice could find many things wrong with it too, if they are on the outside looking in. Matt, you are more than welcome to come to a cowboy match with me and give it a try.
Cowboys used cross draw holsters, and the discipline was based around what was used, and they were. To exclude them would be extremely silly. Cross draw in cowboy is heavily monitored and watched at the matches, and if someone uses incorrectly they are DQ'd. On another note, I find it funny how IDPA doesn't allow shoulder holsters as those are carried every day by Americans and IDPA is to simulate the use of real guns and accessories in simulated self defense situations. SASS does allow a version of the shoulder holster for the derringer type side matches at certain events. So I guess us Cowboy Shooters are the ruination of the shooting sports because we are able to safely use cross draw and shoulder holsters, and can safely transfer our unloaded guns to and from the gun cart without any fear of sweeping.
By the way, and more to the point, I like 667's green cart, very nice indeed. It would be a sweet cart for IPSC, and IDPA and PPC multi gun matches for sure. I think for the OP though, if it is for Cowboy Action, making something that looks more traditional, like it could have existing in the old west is more in keeping with the feeling. If you need any ideas, you can PM me, as I build custom gun carts for Cowboy Action specifically as well as custom gun cases.
Instead of attacking other peoples disciplines, that perhaps one has no experience in, one should examine what is actually in the rules and in practice. The anti's want us fighting each other, let's not help them.
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